BOTM 11 First Spoiler - 500AD

I am playing for culture so I did not do any special efforts to increase research.

All 3 cultural cities got cottages (8-10 per city). All of them are villages, some are towns. lib + 3-4 monasteries per city + (academy + GL) in my capital + representation + bureaucracy.

3-4 cities build money from time to time.

I was needed to build many wonders by chopping so I built more workers than usually - it were 3-4 worker per city for a time period before 500BC.
I am impressed by your progress. MoM at 1AD :eek:, 3-4 workers per city :mischief:. 8-10 cottages/city :crazyeye:. This makes the big difference to the standard culture player (like me) :lol:
 
It seem in this game, the fastest way to build a monastary is to chop a forest on the last turn of the temple and bunch of extra hammers go to the Monastary.
I didn't chop forest to monasteries. I saved it for wonders and for health as much as it was possible. Now I am planning to research Banking ( it will take less two turns) and set research slider to zero. I will research economics with zero science and later by hummers to get free GM for a GAge. I do not plan to get astro - too late. It's time to finish game. :)
 
With the vast open land to the west, coupled with the initial expectation that to the east there would be nothing but ocean, I planned for peace to absorb the continent. For quite a while I thought I was isolated, and not until after I had learned Poly and got Hinduism that I met Boudica's scout, and by then I'd already discovered enough land to not bother trying to kill her. Of course, naturally she started a couple of wars later, so I did eventually kill her and Louis, but not before I owned all the land west of the start location.

Can't remember anything else non-spoiler to this point.
 
Challenger save - goal : culture victory

I settled on the coast south of pigs on T2.
Starting without techs, I figured that the best tile to improve early would be the fish, and I needed a warrior asap to start exploring.
So I researched fishing while building a warrior. When done (T5), I researched mining (T11) and BW (T22) while building a workboat and growing to size 2, then a settler (whipped).
Boudicca found me, and later Louis. I settled my 2nd city on the plain hill 2N of corn to block my land and have a nice production city (T29). I wasn't aware of horse location at that time, and had not explored enough east to see the copper.
I noticed the copper between the celts and the French shortly after. But since the first founded Buddhism, and the second Hinduism, I didn't think it would be that good to settle a third city over there, the cultural pressure might just be too much. Anyway, a war between the 2 was certainly due to happen soon, I thought.
I researched Agri and AH while building a worker in each city. Horses popped between the celts and the french too, not worth getting it now since I didn't seek the elimination of my neighbours! My plan was then to wait for the religions to spread to me, and hopefully that the 2 AIs go at each other (rather likely considering who they are). Louis founded judaism and converted to it, which changed nothing to the situation.

Techs : Writing, Wheel, Pottery, Hunting, Archery, Myst, Poly, Priesthood, COL (T94)

Builds : some warriors to explore and assume minimal garrison duty, wb to explore, settlers; barracks in city 2, library in capital, some archers to fend off barbs later.

Settled city 3 on south coast (T54) and city 4 on west coast (T65) in good cottage land for later legendary cities.

In 500 AD, no war yet between Buddica and Louis, rather disappointing. I'm still in no religion.
I have 6 cities (32 pop) and 2 settlers on their way to found new ones.
2 GS born in capital (2 academies in capital and city 3), 1 GA on his way.
Parthenon finished and Statue of Zeus half way (both in capital)
4 religions (christianism in distant land), soon 5 with taoism.

Civics are HR, Caste and OR.

Plan is to produce max GA in capital while building wonders and having artists assigned. I'm not sure it was a good idea to have the GP farm build wonders, since that means less assigned specialists.. but on the other hand both wonders and specialists contribute to the pool which remains pure.. Well I'll see.
With 5 religions, I should get a lot of multipliers in my cottage cities and capital. I plan to research till nationalism, constitution and PP, and get democracy from liberalism, then shut down research and buy missing buildings with US.


Looking backward, it's too bad that I didn't get the horses. I had to lose some turns to tech to archery. CS wasn't high priority, but I should have gone to philo earlier to go into pacifism.
 
I didn't chop forest to monasteries. I saved it for wonders and for health as much as it was possible. Now I am planning to research Banking ( it will take less two turns) and set research slider to zero. I will research economics with zero science and later by hummers to get free GM for a GAge. I do not plan to get astro - too late. It's time to finish game. :)

I too used the forests for Marble wonders. Your game is very impressive and I hope to learn from it. We have very close tech dates but your focus is very commendable.:thumbsup:

I hope to continue playing tomorrow after I complete refinishing floor of my home. I would guess you will likely hit the 1000 cpt in 13th century. I am actually hoping for many GA's than commerce. So in your case a GA is only good for 4 turn where as in my game assuming about 700 cpt a GA is worth almost 6 turns. So I do not thinks you are catchable. Hummmm.... may be I should go to space instead as usual. :lol: I can change my GP farms to scientist. :crazyeye: Man...I am such a chicken.

OK back to the floors. :)
 
Adventurer save.

I took few notes and had a very loooong pause in playing after reaching 500+ AD (on Oct 28), and here I am about 38 hours before the deadline trying to (a) figure out what the heck I was doing (hence this post) and (b) finish the game. I mean, this is warlord, which is my comfort zone (being no good at Noble yet) so I'd be letting down all us low-level players if I don't show that some weak players actually do submit xOTMs at low levels.

As usual my strategy was not particularly coherent.
Spoiler mistakes made along the tech path :

With (myst, wheel) normal and (fish,ag) extra, i figured going for an early religion made sense, so poly > AH > mining > bronze > pottery. I then decided to go for a CS slingshot (writing, priesthood, math, CoL), which I achieved in 625 BC. At that point defence against the nearby Celts and upcoming barbarians seemed like a priority, so hunting and archery. I then did sailing, then meditation for spreading hinduism to confucian cities. I didn't realize that Alphabet was not very useful at this level so went for it anyway, then got IW.

I had a GP saved up to bulb Theology after monotheism but then forgot all about it, losing Christianity to someone else somewhere after 550 BC.

I'm deducing the rest of the tech path from earlier saves, which I make for hypothetical replays after the deadline (which I never have time for). It looks like I then decided on improving happiness via hippodromes, since I went for aesthetics, literature, and drama before going back for currency to improve my economy.

I built the Great Library in 450 AD and at the moment get 77 beakers per turn at 70% slider; I get the feeling that's not very good. I also built the Parthenon in 475 AD; that plus the attempt to get Christianity as a 3rd religion suggest I was thinking of a cultural victory, but from reading jesusin's recent thread on such victories my earlier moves were a bad idea, especially getting several Great Prophets. I've explored the west with a galley as far as Louis' territory in the South but no further; he's hostile and I'm not ready for war yet.

Currently I have 7 cities and have connected strategic resources iron (on the nearer part of the west coast) and horses (near Boudicca). Both of my neighbours (Celts and French) are ahead of me on the power graph, which I realize is bad at this point. Boudicca is my Hindu buddy. I'm now a little worried about the hostile French, so am going for Metal Casting for forges and better production, then Construction to build cats for a possible invasion. I don't think I can wait until Cataphracts for that. From other posts it looks like I should have instead taken over the continent much earlier.

@jesusin -- thanks for the brief comment about Bureaucracy really wanting lots of cottages in the capital. Seems fairly obvious now, but I never realized it before.
 
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