Boudicea & The Twin Towers

[Fippy]

What whining
You achieved goal #1, makes you part of the winning team ~~

I was rather serious with that, winning the map completely should be between 8 and 10 on deity difficulty scale (not fully tested, but..) and i know it's not for everybody.
But if you had fun and defeated Romans, all good

 

[Fippy]

Nice report once again Shaka (our Shaka, not Impi Dancer ~~).
Funny jokes too, i did put in some historical cities and stuff (Lannosea was the name of one of Boudi's daughters, according to some sites).

Spoiler :

i would agree that capturing twin towers has higher priority than anything, they are worth more than all other cities on your continent combined
But maybe it would have been harder without xp from JC?
Hill longbows, i did not expect them seeing so early too in test games.

Berserker was placed so Toku cannot capture them before they are fortified, unlucky timing for Lymo on that.

I will be really curious how Twin Towers vs. Lizzy + mystery AI compares, funny how Toku can be of help for you
An idea behind this map was making Celts (and Gallics) playable with better starting techs, and Toku having some chances (usually he's just bad).

It's a bit of roleplaying, not too serious but then again the historical backgrounds interested me.

 

[pandamancer]

cultural victory!

Spoiler :

Just joking

Went bw > the wheel. Seeing being boxed in quickly by julius, went sailing instead. Settled as others do (there is no other spot except for that if you want to go coastal). Since the food is poor so went caste instead and run scientists.

I managed to pop out a fishing boat and tried my luck to sail east. Saw an island and met liz. She looks pretty advanced. On my way back, the boat got mauled by barb galley.

Just when switch back to slavery, 2nd axe and 1st gs came out Julius declared. Not sure what to do with gs but guessing this will be a defensive war, bulb math instead. I keep pumping axes while julius keeps suiciding his praetorians onto my axes stationed in the hill. Got a great general as a result. I attached the general into the starting warrior for super medic and another axe got upgraded to combat 4. The promotions keep getting fast as his units either suicided to my hill fortified units or slaughtered in the open. Finally built a fort near the edge. Having 7 units or so, managed to pillage his iron. He is sitting duck now.

In the meantime, i built 2 galleys and pump more axes. Sued for peace while ferried 10 axes towards the tower. In the middle of the process, one of the galleys got killed by barb trireme. Luckily, the trireme got destroyed while attacking the second one. Finally, go all out with the 1st tower: 4 survived. Reinforce with two more and taken the second one.

I dont have pics due to slow internet connection but from the looks of it, my power rating is higher than shaka or julius and 3 turns away from construction. 1st goal might be easy from here on.

 

[Fippy]

Awesome Panda

 

[shakabrade]

Yep..GWs are fun

@shocka

Spoiler :

Yeah, I think I'll try this one again with the choke approach, and definitely getting twins asap.

Did JC getting copper from Shaka eventually or did u disrupt relations..i think u may have mentioned that.

I bribed Shaka on JC.

what was your tech path?

BW, fishing, pottery, sailing, writing, IW.

My probably doesn't care for my wussy whining

My doesn't hear whine, instead she hears: job well done.

 

[shakabrade]

Nice report once again Shaka (our Shaka, not Impi Dancer ~~).
Funny jokes too, i did put in some historical cities and stuff (Lannosea was the name of one of Boudi's daughters, according to some sites).

Spoiler :

i would agree that capturing twin towers has higher priority than anything, they are worth more than all other cities on your continent combined
But maybe it would have been harder without xp from JC?
Hill longbows, i did not expect them seeing so early too in test games.

I was expecting something awful anyway. Still better than maces.
Yeah, settled GGs helped a lot.


Berserker was placed so Toku cannot capture them before they are fortified, unlucky timing for Lymo on that.

I will be really curious how Twin Towers vs. Lizzy + mystery AI compares, funny how Toku can be of help for you

Toku gave me CS, Music, Guilds, Banking, Printing Press, Engineering and some other less relevant stuff. I gave him everything I had. I will either conquer or Peacevassal him in the end. I am trying to kill Mansa with cannons and Grenadiers, but I am very slow. Good micro would help here and I am not particularly accomplished micro player. I good at war and grand strat.

An idea behind this map was making Celts (and Gallics) playable with better starting techs, and Toku having some chances (usually he's just bad).

It's a bit of roleplaying, not too serious but then again the historical backgrounds interested me.

Spoiler :

I know that I would win with nukes, but that is not a real win. I'll probably manage to kill/cap Mansa, but Lizzy will need some modern warfare stuff, and I haven't played with anything past Bombers probably since vanilla civ. End game will be such a tedium.

 

[shakabrade]

Mm... Fippy, you know there is one little thing I realized after getting Scientific Method:

Spoiler :

There is no oil! I must take it from Lizzy but to attack Lizzy I need oil! Does not compute.
Arty + Airships will not do the trick when she has Railroads everywhere and Machine guns. I wanted Marine + Fighters as a last resort. Mansa has Infantry. So, now I just need to win before them, any way possible.

 

[Fippy]

Do you think that's too evil

Spoiler :

with Oil only on the island close to her? Better than her mainland thou, Isle could be possible to take ~~

 

[shakabrade]

Do you think that's too evil

Spoiler :

with Oil only on the island close to her? Better than her mainland thou, Isle could be possible to take ~~

Spoiler :

I need to attack her with wooden ships and she will already have dozens of destroyers and air units by the time I am ready. I will have to go dishonorable way.

 

[Fippy]

Spoiler :

I did not want that, think i forgot Oil i cannot remember plans of Oil being only close to her. Should probably be on Corn island.
So please give yourself an oil resi rather than using nukes

 

[shakabrade]

Spoiler :

I did not want that, think i forgot Oil i cannot remember plans of Oil being only close to her. Should probably be on Corn island.
So please give yourself an oil resi rather than using nukes

Too late. I am soiled already :

Spoiler :

Even worse than nukes.

Spread Hindu Religion and beelined Biology. Switched foolish Mansa from Hindu to Islam few turns before elections. Lizzy had only one AP religion city already and I didn't have to spread to her.

But this was a fun game regardless. again

 

[Fippy]

Big congrats, imo any win method is good here

See Lymo, it's not *that* bad ~~

 

[lymond]

I think shaka WB'd that victory

cheesy, shaka, cheesy! I was expecting nuclear holocaust

 

[shakabrade]

Big congrats, imo any win method is good here

See Lymo, it's not *that* bad ~~

I think shaka WB'd that victory

cheesy, shaka, cheesy! I was expecting nuclear holocaust

Spoiler :

Actually, it was more challenging to get AP cheese than nuclear cheese.

Since for nuclear, almost all cities are accessible with nukes and can be taken at turn 0 and there is no fear of retaliation. You need 3 nukes per city, approx 50 nukes, 17 submarines, and 7-8 transports with old units. AIs would not get to SDI by that time. You need Fission, Rocketry and Radio. Subs can be made with Uranium. Last time I used nukes (4 years ago already!), I remember taking 24 cities from super advanced Justinian on T0. While I'd stand no chance in normal fight.

But my chastity belt is definitely broken with this AP win.

 

[Izuul]

Well my first attempt was pretty mediocre. Second is much more promising.

Spoiler :

Took out Rome by parking some axes on his iron and then wearing him down, but I didn't really like the situation i was in so i started over. I got over to the towers too late and they were already full of LBs and Maces. I could've taken out Shaka, Toku, and the barbs eventually, but i would've been in a really bad position to attempt to do anything with the others.

2nd time i parked the axes on the iron again but made no effort to actually fight JC. Instead, i loaded up Gallics and took out the towers first. Came back and finished off JC. Moved my capitol to Left Tower because it's an awesome city. Mansa and Lizzy are still way ahead in tech (somebody got 300 AD Lib), but i feel like i at least have a chance this time. Toku and Shaka should be easy. Shaka's land is just so terrible i need Feudalism so i can vassal him and give him his junky cities back.

Oh and the Assault Leader is still alive sitting in his fort. lol

 

[Fippy]

Izuul

Spoiler :

Berserker guy i set to "Icbm" lol, units never move then Just so Toku cannot attack Towers before the barbs get more units.

Shaka not great with his desert yup, but his 2 starting cities might have a bit of use for whipping with 1 food + Oasis. I wanted AIs on your content pretty weak, so Boudi is not alone with bad land

 

[Fippy]

No more reports *sniff*

Shaka is crowned Boudi's shining knight.
Lymo gets a special award for beating the evil Romans first
Panda is the cutest and bravest bear around, and Izuul should tell me what he did after capturing the towers

 

[Imploding]

Hi!

Had a similar experiense as wastingtime With my first attempt, my second attempt was a better executed and actually got JC, and started to put a hurting on Shaka. But I was so far behind in tech that i just sort of gave up.

Want to try something similar as a rush for the towers.

Hm! My attempt went something like this:
1. Axe rush JC, stand on metal. Self tech iron working and get the UU to stand on the iron with a 2-3 double hill promoted guys (he builds insane amounts of archers!! like the amount of AXES you need to just stand on his tile will break your economy)
2. tech sailing and make 3-4 ships and go straight for the towers with the UU.
3. ....
4. ...
5. CASH IN! Got the towers really early.. maybe 500-1000 BC. The towers are amazing.. moved my cap, made x 2 academy's. And had a little hope to get the MoM.. but lost it halfway..
6. Finish off JC.. (who actually got attacked by shaka aswell!)
7. Go for shaka.. and its at this time I start to lose confidence.. shaka had such a giant metal stack.. it was just ludicrous. And i had allready met Elisabeth.

Might try the same game plan again.. and then go something like this:


8. Don't attack shaka.. just defend in a hill city or make him go after toku.. and wait for a superior tech lead. maybe engineering or curri.
9.. something..
10. Glorious supreme leader of the wordl! Imploading!

Really cool challenge a great map Fippy! had a blast playing it! Tried maybe 6-7 times Will try the Sultan Sally map now!

 

[Fippy]

6-7 times, wow
Great fighting spirit, and good example for how i try crafting those maps.
It's not so much about winning them, but trying to overcome unusual obstacles and having fun while doing so ~~