[BtS] Rise of Mankind

Sword_Of_Geddon · Sep 9, 2007

enaceo said:
No interface ? What do you mean ? At the main-menu or in-game ? Never had this problem before (isn't there a key or option that makes the in-game interface disappear - this might be just my imagination but I think I remember something like this - maybe you pressed the key/ticked the option by mistake? )

About the subforum - I also agree , there's quite a lot to talk about here and a subforum would make it easier for zappara to read our comments/ideas by topic .
And Kalimakhus' suggestion with sharing tactics - that would also be nice (although to tell you the truth , I haven't played much of vanilla BTS so I've based my tactics so far on this mod only ).

I go into the game when I start it, and theres no interface(when you see the settler and warrior), I don't hit anything. Can someone help me? I'd love to play this mod but I can't without an interface.

Kalimakhus · Sep 9, 2007

@mrhyms

I am glad you decided to use my patch. I find solver's and Dale's work to give the game play a better experience indeed. I hope you solved your problem and starting to enjoy RoM already it is quite a captivating mod.

Ending turns on a giant map starts taking a noticeable time from classical era. IMO it is still within acceptable range. Also with a lot to do during your turn you feel that end turn lag is not such a problem. I might start using city governor in my next game. I won't use worker automation however as I dislike it too much.

The reason why my end turn lags are not a problem is that it depends mainly on processor. Mine is okay and within the same range of the ones I see others report for their machines. I keep my resolution low but I use high graphics settings. In fact the resolution is the most dominating factor when it comes to keeping the game running smoothly during your turn.

I see many people reporting having 3GB RAM. I should advice them to get it up to 4GB. RAM chips work better in couples as this allows interleaved channels which boost performance considerably. I am satisfied with my 2GB RAM so far as I didn't run into the MAF problem but just once with warlords playing VISA.

Freakwave · Sep 9, 2007

Thanks for the update! i really hope it lessens the ctds. I like those new plot effects very much.

About those spy missions would it not be better to extend the time from unhappyness/unhealthyness rather than a bigger effect? I know i was the one that brought it up. If you are in a war that drags on it will be nastier than a bigger effect initially. On a sidenote, firaxis could have better made a waning effect rather than a sudden stop.

About city production etc. Those (moai?)statues that give each sea tile one hammer is an uber wonder early on, and it doesnt get build that much by the ai. Have it in your capital or soon to be capital with bureaucracy, which in turn makes a great science or commerce city -> Coastal tiles 3F 2G 1H grow baby grow! if you are playing financial even better. Im not saying it should be toned down. The city i am referring to was 37 size at 1530AD, with two land tiles, or 3 with city, the rest coast,ocean

/ends rambling

Dewion · Sep 9, 2007

Hi everyone, i havent had the time to play this mod, i only gave it a quick test... But i have some ideas.

1. Someone said something about map for this mod, im currently thinking about this map made by Toft:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6316
Its a gigantic earthmap and i simply love it. More room, is always better, if only my computer could manage so huge map + huge modpack without a lag i would be in heaven..

I modified the map for my own use so there are 18 civs in their almost right starting positions, only thing i still have to do is to place resources in realistic locations, but i dont know damn about those...

2. Could it be possible that when city grows the food and production in center plot could increase? Maybe at start it could be something like 5 food + 1 hammer and when city grows more room would be needed for population which would add more hammers but decreases food, and finally it would be vise versa 1 food + 5 hammers. And also commerce should increase. Just a thought...

btw, an offtopic(or is it?

):
I still known nothing about modding, so could someone explain how to add mod components to this mod, those which add more civs and other small addons. There are so many of them, if some people could tell what componets are good and how to add them to this modpack, i would very happy..

and also, zappara and others, keep up the good work...

Sword_Of_Geddon · Sep 9, 2007

nevermind about that interface problem, i managed to solve it, I had flavor bug mod installed, i just deleted that and now it works fine.

xbeanerx · Sep 9, 2007

I have a question why does civ3 have so many more unit mods than civ4 and people still continue to make mods for Civ3.
witch one is better Civ4 Or Civ3?
and do guys know of any future expansion pack for CIV4?

xbeanerx · Sep 9, 2007

@Zappara
If its Not to much to ask Please,Please include some new leaders for your Mod exsample,Hitler for Nazi Germany,Hussein for leader of Iraq,
I was speaking to Dwolf he said he is creating Jim Jong ill for North Koreans, and the Imam Khamanei for Iran,
I think this would be a nice collection for the axis of evil and would make your mod even Greater than it already is!
So what do you think about this request.

darkedone02 · Sep 9, 2007

xbeanerx said:
I have a question why does civ3 have so many more unit mods than civ4 and people still continue to make mods for Civ3.
witch one is better Civ4 Or Civ3?
and do guys know of any future expansion pack for CIV4?

There are many reasons why people like to play and mod civilization 3.

☻Civilization 3 does not cost much system specs like civ 4 does and it's mods
☻Civilization 3 seems to prove more challenging due to the lack of today's options not in the game
☻Civilization 3 existed way before civilization 4, like maybe 6 years ahead of civilization 4.
☻Civilization 3 has a built-in mod/map editor, and civilization 4 don't, instead the map maker is in the game, and the mod maker is in a SDK File.
There may not bee any more civilization 4 expansions cause civilization: revolution, Civilization 5, and other stuff is still under the making right now.

xbeanerx · Sep 9, 2007

darkedone02 said:
There are many reasons why people like to play and mod civilization 3.

☻Civilization 3 does not cost much system specs like civ 4 does and it's mods
☻Civilization 3 seems to prove more challenging due to the lack of today's options not in the game
☻Civilization 3 existed way before civilization 4, like maybe 6 years ahead of civilization 4.
☻Civilization 3 has a built-in mod/map editor, and civilization 4 don't, instead the map maker is in the game, and the mod maker is in a SDK File.
There may not bee any more civilization 4 expansions cause civilization: revolution, Civilization 5, and other stuff is still under the making right now.

Oh my God "CIV5" Please tell me more about Civ5 and champagne will fall from the heavens!!

Sword_Of_Geddon · Sep 10, 2007

I came across a crash to desktop error. Was playing normally and suddenly windows said that there was an error with Beyond the Sword and it crashed back to desktop. Hope you can fix this error in the next patch because I'd love to actually play the mod all the way threw.

Bastian-Bux · Sep 10, 2007

Posting your save game and/or copy and pasting at least the error message would significantly increase the chances of the mod maker to repair that bug.

Sword_Of_Geddon · Sep 10, 2007

Alright heres my game: It crashes once the turn is over.

Nihilista · Sep 10, 2007

Same here , i was just beginning to have sufficient power to begin to think about expanding , then i pressed end of turn , everything went black and it crashed back to desktop , something live CvGameCoreDLL involved .
I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact i was going to discover refining. I must add i don't have warlords add-on installed but i played well till 1580 ad . :'(

Nihilista · Sep 10, 2007

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/126262/AutoSave_AD-1580.CivBeyondSwordSave

If anyone having warlords installed could try it to see if it works , i would be pleased .
But i can also help to fix the bugs i guess

Kalimakhus · Sep 10, 2007

@Nihilista

As per the last time I checked, several units reference their Art graphics from Warlords assets. This should cause a CTD once any of these units gets built by you or by any of the AI players.

I hope Zappara might find enough time to grab the graphics he uses out of warlords and put them inside the Mod, so this dependency no longer exists.

I won't be able to check your save as my RoM version has a DLL so it breaks compatibility. However you may go back to your game right before the CTD and go into world builder and have a look at what is being built in the AI's cities. To narrow your search a little if any of your opponents is China or Mongolia look them up. I remember that units used from warlord (scenarios) belong to both.

Sword_Of_Geddon · Sep 10, 2007

I hope that Zap releases a patch soon to fix the errors with 9.3.

Nihilista · Sep 10, 2007

By the way , sword of Geddon i tried to load your save but it crashes my civ.exe.
Hmm i guess i will try another mod while this one get his dependancy over warlords away.
But it's from what i seen , an excellent work so far , Zappara .

zappara · Sep 10, 2007

I've grabbed those saves and try to find time to investigate them soon.

I managed to add few new features today to the mod and I think the next patch is complete now - all I need to do is test it and pack it before uploading it.

Here's complete changelog for v0.9.4:

Spoiler :

My main focus is now balancing the things and fixing bugs in the mod first. This next patch will affect gold balance and city defense balance. Gold balance affects other commerce too so we'll have to see how things will work before I'll continue with balancing tech/unit costs.

I do have plans to add more graphics but that's gonna happen bit later.

Freakwave · Sep 10, 2007

Kalimakhus said:
As per the last time I checked, several units reference their Art graphics from Warlords assets. This should cause a CTD once any of these units gets built by you or by any of the AI players.

I hope Zappara might find enough time to grab the graphics he uses out of warlords and put them inside the Mod, so this dependency no longer exists.

I won't be able to check your save as my RoM version has a DLL so it breaks compatibility. However you may go back to your game right before the CTD and go into world builder and have a look at what is being built in the AI's cities. To narrow your search a little if any of your opponents is China or Mongolia look them up. I remember that units used from warlord (scenarios) belong to both.

I just checked my last save before ctd, since i had the mongolian civ(AI) in my game and also a Civgamecoredll issue. I could find no anomalies. I checked all others too. We were in the renaissance so those units you are reffering to were already obsolete.

Could this also be because of solvers changes?

Nihilista · Sep 10, 2007

Argh i forgot to mention i installed your unofficial 0.93 patch kallimakhus , so you might be able to try to have a look on my savegame .
Hmm actually i don't see very well what causes the problem , the other ai were not building any unusual thing . I will try harder to find the cause , so at least i give some help.

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