Bug/Exploit: Permanent alliance & gold per turn

[Domus]

Hi

I tried search but at least couldn't find older post with this bug report..

When AI agrees with permanent alliance with you, it is possible to ask huge amount of gold / turn from him (few hundreds or thousand gold), and he agrees for it for free. Thing is, that this negotiation never expires, so you have this free gold/turn for the rest of the game (and I don't think he had this amount/turn in the first place).

I have had this situation twice now, and I'm playing BtS 3.13 (with version 3.13.001 of HoF mod)

 

[ori]

Welcome to CFC
actually this is neither a bug nor an exploit. With a permanent alliance you and the AI become a team and you can ask him to give you all the gold he generates per turn. When you do this he will adjust his research slider to 0 and possibly loose some of his units to strike - so you don't get any freebies...

 

[Domus]

thank you =)

I try to upload a save. Hopefully it succeeds.. Sorry I don't have save where permanent alliance is about to happen, instead I have save where alliance has been for a while already.

so.. is it alright for me to keep asking Hannibal more money, and it doesn't seem to slower his technical development at all (same as mine). At first turn I ask for +137 gold/turn then +259, +28, +20 gold - then it goes to zero but after few turns it is again more gold available)

This gold never expires (for the rest of the game time) and at the moment I have +1125 gold/turn with 100% science)

 

[Domus]

not that it bothers me so much.. I'm kind of player who like to have fun with game even if it would be unfair.. so, if I have more free gold, I'll be happy

 

[ori]

I'll have a look at the save - but I am sure that it works like that, for now:
6 years since joining - so my welcome should have been to the posting side

Edit: so I had a look at the save:
do the following: ask hannibal to also research composites so you can see the research progress for both of you. It will be 7 turns to completion, then cancel all the gold per turn trades and you progress magically goes to 6 turns
This is even more pronounced if you cease to do any research yourself

 

[KrikkitTwo]

The fact is a PA will give you Everything and Anything they have... just like you can take all the gold your cities make and put it into your treasury

If your ally goes on Strike... they can't give you any more gold and they lose units.

 

[CHEESE!]

Thats how you bring a random little civ to the ground, then bribe others to declare war (sorry, my cat pressed the button works for the idiotic AIs) then vassal em. Domination!