Build ques for province of Phobos

[Mr Spice]

Here are my suggestions for the next item(s) to build in the cities belonging to Phobos. Feel free to comment anything you want.

TheHolyDuckPond

The concensus is to finnish the university when we have enough caravans to buld Newtons, which should then be built here. After this it depends on what technologies we have. If sanitation is availible I would like to build a sewer system for the city to grow further. Otherwise I think city walls would be nice, this is the most important city in our nation. Perhaps we should even consider building walls right after Newtons.

Potpolia

Has all basic improvements and an aqueduct for growth. IMO we should set this city on building food caravans until we have the wonders that we want. I suggest the next priority to be more caravans until it has its maximum number of trade routes (currently none).

Athenae

Same as for Potpolia.

Fort Pornstar

When it finnishes its caravan I would like Fort Pornstar to build a library followed by and aqueduct, then caravans for trade routes.

Kevholm

Kevholm already has a garrison of two musketeers suported by itself and is about to start on a new one (no shields yet). IMO two defense units is enough and that musketeer should be switched to a temple followed by a harbor. (Kevholm has only three landtiles within its city radius.) We should also consider sending a settler here to improve the two plains outside the city.

Becka-Becka

After the temple is finnished I suggest a harbor. Sending a settler here would be nice too.

Pellaken bay

After the temple I suggest we build a settler here to improve the land. Pellaken Bay can support one, unlike for example Kevholm and Becka-Becka.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

It all sounds good except for the Walls part. I am not a big fan of city walls and the AI should never be able to get close enough nor be able to do any damage to THDP. I would much rather see the Univ built, then Newtons, and the sewer then get three trade routes going for it ASAP.

 

[Dell19]

I don't like walls either but if they can be completed in just 2 or 3 turns then it wouldn't be so bad.

 

[Leowind]

Originally posted by Duke of Marlbrough
It all sounds good except for the Walls part. I am not a big fan of city walls and the AI should never be able to get close enough nor be able to do any damage to THDP. I would much rather see the Univ built, then Newtons, and the sewer then get three trade routes going for it ASAP.

Yeah, what he said

How soon would Ft Pornstar grow? if soon, then build the aqueduct first, otherwise sounds good. Can we find some cities to build caravans with the purpose of sending them TO THDP? Our science city only has one trade route!

 

[Mr Spice]

With current growth rate Fort Pornstar will be ready to grow in 17 turns. However, I just thought of something else. Kev mentioned he would like some cities with a production of 10 for caravan rush-building. If Fort Pornstar is micromanaged to work two more forests instead of non-shielded grasslands, it will get a net production of 10 (and a surplus of one food, which means growth in 84 turns). This means we also have the choice to postpone library/aqueduct and put it on food caravans for a while. I am a bit ambivalent on this, it depends on how many other mainland cities we have building caravans. In Phobos there will probably be two others (Potpolia and Athenae) but I am not sure about Luna.

 

[Kev]

This is a great thread! Thanks SO much for all of the help everyone!

I'm in agreement with pretty much everything. Walls would not be so bad in THDP - even though I usually don't build them either. I'm more nervous about a seaborne barbarian attack really. They have been known to use dragoons, and several at a time could cause some issues. They are pretty rushable and have no support cost, so I would not feel put out to build them.

You know, I don't even know the barabarian level that's been set. Anyone know?

 

[duke o' york]

Duck ought to know what barbarian level the game is set at - he played the very first turns and set it up on his PC. Alternatively you could just look at the Civ Score screen and see what kind of barb bonus we have.
I too was wondering the other day why we haven't seen any barbs for ages. I've got a feeling that something could come up and surprise us so it may be a good idea to protect our assets. If we can crank out some walls after Newton's then it could prove worthwhile. It's not as if the AI is really going to take huge advantage of the couple of turns between our finishing a massive science wonder and then building a sewer system. Also, if we build walls we may by then be in a position to build a sewer system having discovered Sanitation. I'm quite happy with the build orders posted.

 

[Mr Spice]

There seems to be consensus about everything except the walls and in which order to build library/aqueduct in Fort Pornstar. I will try to set some polls up. (Wish me luck...)

THDP-poll

Fort Pornstar - poll

 

[Mr Spice]

I updated the city summary in accordance to discussions and polls.