Bush: Good or Bad

Has Bush Been Good For America?

  • I am American: Yes

    Votes: 23 17.0%
  • I am American: No

    Votes: 39 28.9%
  • I am American: No Difference

    Votes: 5 3.7%
  • Non-American: Yes

    Votes: 9 6.7%
  • Non-American: No

    Votes: 44 32.6%
  • Non-American: No Difference

    Votes: 15 11.1%

  • Total voters
    135
Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
Sorry to break it to you, but i can tell the difference.

I didn't realise you were psychic. Fancy gift you've got there.

You always know when someone's telling the truth and when they're being economical with it?

'If only life was black and white.'

Politicians are a lot more intelligent than we like to give them credit for, unfortunately.
 
Are you trying to annoy me?

Because your treading into dangerous ground Hamlet.

You will apologize at once.
 
I have to say, however, that hearing give Bush's speeches after 9/11 made me feel pretty darn patriotic. It made life a little easier knowing that something was going to be done to get back at the "evildoers." (That term always kills me, I don't know why)

The democrats don't really have anyone to challenge Bush at this point, unfortunately. Gore is a nerd. Daschle plays in the media too much. The best chance that us Democrats have to win back the White House is with Hillary Rodham!!! What's wrong with that picture?
 
Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae

Reading e-mail won't do that, Poindexter is a fool, but there are other steps, and they are being taken.

Poindexter is not a fool, and the misrepresentation of his DARPA programs in the press are examples of ignorant scare-mongering. I agree that his is a very unusual name to put in front of a potentially controversial program, but he's there because he is uniquely qualified and dedicated.

The fact is that in this country, I as a consumer can pay a private company $5 and receive a list of every address, telephone #, credit card account, job and school you've ever been associated with. But if I am the US government, I am prohibited from doing the same. Information policy in this country is so screwed up, no one seems to know where to begin to fix it.
 
Originally posted by Tony Soprano
I have to say, however, that hearing give Bush's speeches after 9/11 made me feel pretty darn patriotic. It made life a little easier knowing that something was going to be done to get back at the "evildoers." (That term always kills me, I don't know why)
He does have a tendancy to simplify matters into sides, the world is very jaded, he just doesn't think so.

The democrats don't really have anyone to challenge Bush at this point, unfortunately. Gore is a nerd. Daschle plays in the media too much. The best chance that us Democrats have to win back the White House is with Hillary Rodham!!! What's wrong with that picture?
This is the real problem, not that Bush is so bad, it's just the Dems have nobody good to put foward.

The last ten years the Dems really played fast and loose with the law and the public trust, and it came back to haunt them.

They really need to regain that trust, and it won't come from mindless attacks from that puppet Gore, the man will say anything, I doubt he has a genuine opinion on anything.

They need someone we can get behind, and I just see who that is right now.
 
To all of those of you who say "no," the President doesn't have as much power as you might think. The President can only push for legislation and action, not create it.
 
Originally posted by rmsharpe
To all of those of you who say "no," the President doesn't have as much power as you might think. The President can only push for legislation and action, not create it.

Yet, surely you feel able to blame Clinton for all of our past problems :rolleyes:.
 
Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
Think about what you just said, and why guys like Ming and I would reel at that guy being president.

I happen to not like being lied to, and treated like I was a carnival mark.

It's immpossible to know who Al Gore is, because Al Gore is different everytime you see him.

Then I assume that Bush's tax cut does not make you feel like a carnival mark. EVERYBODY GETS A TAX CUT (just most of you will only get $300). Concedingly, a lot of people in the working class received a bigger tax cut than that. You tend to pay less taxes when you become unemployed. As for the tax cuts for the rich, even some of that is a lie. WE ARE GOING TO END THE DEATH TAX (but repeal stepped-up basis on your assets at death so that your heirs will just pay a different form of taxes). His whole tax package and the way it was marketed (needed to save a slowing economy/will be paid for by the surplus from a hot economy) had the carnival barker looking for a mark feel to it. And now we are paying the price for being the mark.

Oh, by the way, American - no.
 
American: No.

Problem is that neither party has anybody decent to run in 2004. Maybe they'll let Nader win it.
 
Non-American: No

He had the presidency handed to him on a silver platter. He is an oilmongering warmongering conflict initiator.

On the other hand, he is good for the top 10%.

(The trickle down effect: I eat a cookie, you eat my excrement.)
 
American: no

I think it could have been worse though....so he gets points for that. As I get older I start leaning more GOP but not all the way...yet.
 
I used to think Gore would have been the better alternative. Then I sat down one day to peruse his manifesto "Earth in the balance. Ecology and the Human Spirit." Well, for obvious reasons I don't like politicians who have a plan to save the world, specifically if they think over-population is the make-or-break issue.

The good thing about Bush is that he does not seem to have a master-plan, other than getting himself re-elected.

Just saw on the telly that Gore is now criticizing Bush for not doing enough to fight Al-Quaida. Cool it, Gore! What do you want to do, implant microchips in everybody's head?

I also saw Bush hanging out with that old bohemian Vaclav Havel in Prague and it looked as if they were having a great time. This reflects positively on Bush's character I think. He seems to be more at ease now. Mind you, I do think he should dump Cheney and Rumsfeld, come election time.

By the way what is the name of that former wrestler guy who is governor in some state i can't think of right now. I like his policy on Cuba (i. e. open trade). He was in the movie 'Predator' where he wielded a gun of epic proportions. Would he run as president. I saw him on Larry King once, and he talked about forming a third alternative.
 
Non-American: No, not good for America and even worse for the rest of us. :eek:
 
Originally posted by Dr. Dr. Doktor
By the way what is the name of that former wrestler guy who is governor in some state i can't think of right now. I like his policy on Cuba (i. e. open trade). He was in the movie 'Predator' where he wielded a gun of epic proportions. Would he run as president. I saw him on Larry King once, and he talked about forming a third alternative.

Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota...

I loved him in Predator.

As a Governor, I don't think he lived up to the expectations of the people of Minnesota ;)
 
Originally posted by Ming


As a Governor, I don't think he lived up to the expectations of the people of Minnesota ;)

Minnesota. Was that not where the movie Fargo was filmed?
I didn't think anybody had any expectations 'aboot' anything there?
 
Minnesota has very liberal voting rules, even same-day registration, so, Ventura got many first-time voters (lots of college students) to vote for him.

Plus, the two major parties ignored him, thiking he was a joke, while they could have been ripping his "policies" to shreads.

Pawlenty is the right guy for Minnesota, though. Roger Moe, the Democrat, only ran because of peer pressure.
 
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