Bush is an Idiot & who wants Clinton back?

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

So Clinton sex'd another woman (maybe more),why the hell care?
I even respect him more by it.
What has his sexlive to do with politics anyway.What in his (good) sex-live made him a worser politician? Answer me that.

While youre saying Bush A OK he's busy puting money in his sleeve's gotten from giant industrial sector's that need the presidential support to act like they like.
Note that if they give him money to get their way's done their way's probibly arn't that fresh.
Like when he left the kyoto treaty ,the polluting companies have probably "thanked" him for doing it.By doing this ,he has not only affected the future ecology of america ,but also that of the rest of the world.

 

[Xiahou-Dun]

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders:
So Clinton sex'd another woman (maybe more),why the hell care?

Why , because he is suppose to be the person in this country everyone can look up to.

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders:
I even respect him more by it.

When your married and do something like this?

Glad to see what you respect. I feel for your partner in life.

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders:
What has his sexlive to do with politics anyway.What in his (good) sex-live made him a worser politician? Answer me that.

It wasn't the sex. It was his denial of it under oath. Really something that is done by both parties, he was unlucky enough to get caught.

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders:
While youre saying Bush A OK he's busy puting money in his sleeve's gotten from giant industrial sector's that need the presidential support to act like they like.
Note that if they give him money to get their way's done their way's probibly arn't that fresh.

Both parties have money in their sleeve's. It depends on what you want from each party.

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders:
Like when he left the kyoto treaty ,the polluting companies have probably "thanked" him for doing it.By doing this ,he has not only affected the future ecology of america ,but also that of the rest of the world.

You show me a treaty every country in the world can sign and agree to uphold and I will personal write my congress man and demand it is signed.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

posted by Xiahou-Dun:

Why , because he is suppose to be the person in this country everyone can look up to.

Well he's a danger for the "moral value's" of american people.Now every married american is sexing other girls.

When your married and do something like this?
Glad to see what you respect. I feel for your partner in life

I'm not married (i'm 20 years old ,i'm enyoing live to its fullist

)

It wasn't the sex. It was his denial of it under oath. Really something that is done by both parties, he was unlucky enough to get caught

Big deal.
If you would be a president that pulls his bever every night ,and suppose that would be wrong.Would you admit if you could lose youre presidency with it?
Monogamie is just a catholic belief.
It's (according to Darwin) even not in human's nature.

Both parties have money in their sleeve's. It depends on what you want from each party.

Must be that both party's arn't very clean.
you are pro-lobbying?

You show me a treaty every country in the world can sign and agree to uphold and I will personal write my congress man and demand it is signed.

This point is sadly true.It is just a sign of the sickening future wo go to.But Bush gave the final sign to pollute withought remorse.

 

[Xiahou-Dun]

@TheDuckOfFlanders:


I will use a quote from above to answer your remarks..

Originally posted by SlowwHand:
You want to be stupid, be stupid.
You have the right.
It's no longer simple ignorance, since you've been informed.
It now drifts into stupidity.

And this about sums it up for you. You want to answer with stupid answers be my guest.

I broke down your remarks and answered them in a serious manner and to the best of my knowlegde.

You on the other hand want to treat it as a joke.

Point Blank: Grow up.

(Notice my remarks are to TheDuckOfFlanders only. SlowwHand quote was used to to pass a point along.)

 

[NeelaX]

Originally posted by BlueMonday:
They're both god damn morons! I don't want either of them. When I'm pres, I'm going to make a law preventing poeple from Arkansas and Texas from running for presisdent.

True DAT Sir Blue! I say out with all the damn rednecks. I can't believe anyone would actually think Clinton did a lot of good for our country. Its clear in who they appoint in their cabinet. I mean come on, Janet Reno??? Ashcroft??? What are these people thinking?
I think over and over I've heard every single Republican & democratic leader repeat this to our great nation "We need to bring back morals & family values to our nation"
I say screw morals, screw family values, and give me LIBERTY!

hehe ok I'm done ranting. But seriously civers, after all your civ playing, you should really know which government works the best. Could you imagine a family values or drug rating? hehe

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[TheDuckOfFlanders]

@Xiaho-Dun
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Now wat the hell is youre problem? Do i need to grow op? Why? Because i use criticism to the extend of MY knowledge?
I have just my opinion ,and you have yours.

I accept youre criticism towards me ,and give my oppinion.You think Bush is fine ,i dont.What is so stupid about that?

I try to be open-minded. Whe had a discusion about the importance of the clinton sex-scandal.You think it's a big deal ,i don't.
Maybe it isn't that good ,but it's not as bad as giving up world-wide important treaty's.But that's just my oppinion.

That's my problem with Bush. He sucks at the diplomatic level.But being the president of America (the most powerfull man in the world)
is a big world-wide diplomatic responsabilety.And the world can change a lot under the terms of one President.

from neelax:

I say screw morals, screw family values, and give me LIBERTY!

That's it.Live youre live at it's most ,and think it youre way.Expand youre horizon's.And don't let them bullfeathers you.

If it was for me that unfair 2 party system wouldn't exist.

 

[Xiahou-Dun]

@TheDuckOfFlanders . Go back and read your comments. You made jokes all down thru your post. That is why I told you to grow up. If you want to discuss in in a grown up manner fine. Till then my remarks stand.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

Well for you that were jokes ,for me it was criticism. We had a mis understanding.
Peace now.

 

[HIEROPHANT]

Clinton was much better presdient.

 

[gjts00]

1: yes!!!

2: yes!!!

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[Simon Darkshade]

For the first point, it depends on the defintion of idiot being used. Supply one, and i'll comment.

Secondly, I do admit to a nostalgia for Bill Clinton, as I have no huge ideological gripe with hime, and he had undeniable charisma. He was not perfect, but he did alright in some areas of policy. A lot of conservatives will leap on me for saying that, but it will serve no purpose. I do not change my opinions to brow beating, and I reserve the right to think my way. I'll debate the point if necessary.

How about this for a spinoff- If Bill Clinton had been allowed to stand for a third term, would he have got it? IMO, yes.

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[Kefka]

I think he would of got a third term and I think that the Two Terms Rule should not exist! I mean It only came about because of Tradition.

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[Xiahou-Dun]

Originally posted by Simon Darkshade:


How about this for a spinoff- If Bill Clinton had been allowed to stand for a third term, would he have got it? IMO, yes.

I believe he would have also. And I'm not a Clinton supported.

 

[Magnus]

EDIT: D'OH! Stupid Computer (user)!

sorry, the following post is the correct one.

[This message has been edited by Magnus (edited July 10, 2001).]

 

[Magnus]

Would Americans really vote a criminal like Bill Clinton to a third term? Hmmm... maybe the 'Are all Americans Really this Stupid?' thread has some merits after all.

 

[thedirk]

Would Clinton have won another term?

Of course he would have.

Would Clinton be better than Bush?

That depends on your political opinion, and what sorts of policies you support.

Is Clinton a criminal sleaze-bag?

Yes, but then that describes many heads of state in most countries. Bush is no angel either.

My opinion is that leaders who commit crimes while in leadership should be removed from office, and be forever banned from running for office. But then, many Americans seem to feel that ethics has nothing to do with leadership.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

From Simon Darkshade:

For the first point, it depends on the defintion of idiot being used. Supply one, and i'll comment.

The word idiot was just an generalization from me.It ment that he's not intellectual enough to be a good president.(atleast i think he's not ,that was just an oppinion)

So the question then is:
Is he intellectual enough to be a good president?

Secondly, I do admit to a nostalgia for Bill Clinton, as I have no huge ideological gripe with hime, and he had undeniable charisma. He was not perfect, but he did alright in some areas of policy. A lot of conservatives will leap on me for saying that, but it will serve no purpose. I do not change my opinions to brow beating, and I reserve the right to think my way. I'll debate the point if necessary.

Indeed he wasn't perfect.Nobody is perfect.But he was one of the BEST! (to my oppinion)

How about this for a spinoff- If Bill Clinton had been allowed to stand for a third term, would he have got it? IMO, yes.

I tottaly agree.I find the two term system stupid.If so much people wanted him as president ,he earnes to be president.

from thedirk:

Is Clinton a criminal sleaze-bag?

Yes he is.And almost all politicians in America are.I think you have to be criminal to some extend to get the president's chair.

But maybe he was a less criminal than other presidents.I don't know.But atleast he done some good stuff too.Maybe more than a lot of other president's.

 

[Warlord56]

I never liked Clinton since the 1992 election, me being a Republican, but that's just my opinion.

Also, comparing Clinton to H. Bush is not a fair comparison.

The biggest problem that H. Bush had to deal with was the Gulf War

The biggest problems that Clinton had to deal with were Hillary an dhimself(at different times)

And just to fininsh this with a joke that has some truth behind it: the biggest problem that W. Bush has to deal with is Jenna Bush.

[This message has been edited by Warlord56 (edited July 10, 2001).]