[LP] Can different leaders of the same civ have different start bias?

[Brutus2]

Playing Standard size, Pangea map with low sea level and after 20 restarts I cannot get a starting location that is not basically on a peninsula or surrounded by water. I wanted to try Tokugawa, building a lot of districts but I'm guessing he has Hojo's coastal start bias:

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

reportedly, starting bias is tied to the civ, not the leader

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

This might explain why I'm having such rough starts with the Origin Starting Locations mod...

 

[Brutus2]

reportedly, starting bias is tied to the civ, not the leader

Well that stinks because coastal start bias makes sense for Hojo but not for Toku

 

[Laurana Kanan]

reportedly, starting bias is tied to the civ, not the leader

This is correct. However, it's only a middling bias.

For Japan:

<Row CivilizationType="CIVILIZATION_JAPAN" TerrainType="TERRAIN_COAST" Tier="3"/>

 

[Brutus2]

This is correct. However, it's only a middling bias.

For Japan:

<Row CivilizationType="CIVILIZATION_JAPAN" TerrainType="TERRAIN_COAST" Tier="3"/>

Not sure I can agree with "middling" given every time I restart, I always get coast no matter what map settings I use but thanks for checking.

 

[Laurana Kanan]

Middling as in the start bias is tier 3 out of 5. Neither a weak or a strong bias.

 

[Laurana Kanan]

Keep in mind that there are many factors that go into the plot evaluations for a starting location. Start biases are only one and depending on their priority may or may not have a significant effect.

 

[pokiehl]

Well that stinks because coastal start bias makes sense for Hojo but not for Toku

Tying the start bias to the civ and not the leader does seem like a strange oversight to have been made for a game that had an alternate leader from day 1 of its release.

 

[Tech Osen]

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only player who prefers coast starts. Though not ones like in that screenshot...

 

[Kmart_Elvis]

I had to reroll several times to get a decent inland set up with him, and even then I was still pretty close to the coast. It's not prefect but I'm going to just keep going with it.

He seems a bit similar to the Maya in that respect, where you want lots of empty land around you to maximize your 6 tile bonus and push all your cities' districts close together.