Can't beat Noble

[DaemonDivinity]

Lincoln? Thought they finally removed him as a persona. Thought it's Washington and Roosevelt now.

 

[EDaddy]

I like playing Civ4 on Noble. It's a good challenge, yet not too hard. And I only was able to beat Noble once (space race victory). I can hold my own on Noble -- I am a Civ veteran.

 

[KAuss]

I think I finally moved out of Noble with my win yesterday...

Every game I've played thus far had me playing catch up... Yesterday, I learned how to pay close attention to the happy / sad and health meters... Stopping growth to use the extra food to produce specialists...

THIS MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!

100% research and still +175 gold / turn...

Definately if I can do this again, it's time to move it up a notch...

 

[jetsfan]

when playing a peaceful strat, i ussually go for 2 cities as military only cities. doing this i was able to repel all invaders and provide adequate defence for my cities. i ussually go with two defensive units per city, then have roughly ten offensive units to repel any invasion force. (note this is on standard size map) using the rest of my citites as science and commerce centers, i was easily able to defeat my opponent. also only trade techs with the weaker AI's, even if you are tempted to reade with the powerful for better techs. they will fall behind.

 

[KAuss]

when playing a peaceful strat, i ussually go for 2 cities as military only cities. doing this i was able to repel all invaders and provide adequate defence for my cities. i ussually go with two defensive units per city, then have roughly ten offensive units to repel any invasion force. (note this is on standard size map) using the rest of my citites as science and commerce centers, i was easily able to defeat my opponent. also only trade techs with the weaker AI's, even if you are tempted to reade with the powerful for better techs. they will fall behind.

You know the weaker AI will eventually give it to the powerful AI through threat of AI alliance... So if I trade, I trade to anyone who is in good relations with me... Might as well not waste those diplo points...

However, once you start trading, you're just throwing your win out the window...

 

[raeldc]

oh yeah it wasn't lincoln ( hangover from civ3) it was roosevelt

 

[Ryozo]

A problem showed its ugly head a few games ago. I was playing on continents and I was lucky enough to but put on the Eastern side a medium sized continent. So I eventually found out it goes American | Aztec | Me, with aztec being in the middle I befriended the Americans in hopes of squishing the Aztecs between the two of us. As time goes by border tentions finally give way to war. Im quite a few techs ahead of the Aztec so its not too hard to start steamrolling from one town to the next. I end up caturing a town that was on the border of the American culture line. A few turns later the town begins to revolt and the American's swallowed it up! How do I stop this from happening in the future? A great artist might have helped to stop that but I didnt have any at the time. >.<

 

[KAuss]

Don't take it until you've built up culture in the cities before it...

If you're taking all th cities one by one, then the land you've just steam rolled over is nuetral... You'll always end up with another player's culture in your way if you decide to do it that way...

A good way to counter it is to have culture of your own to back you when you take over a city... This is why taking over the border cities are so easy... Cause your cities provide cultural back...

Taking a whole civ at once is not a good idea anways... You'll be hit so hard economically and production will have to provide defense for so many new cities you'll be way out of any race...

Just take a city or two with good resources, then wreck havoc on their land without taking any more cities... Over time, you'll get to extort for the techs you miss out on, or some more gold...

Rinse and repeat...

 

[Ryozo]

Ahh Nice! I guess I just got too eager to expand by empire!

 

[Big Ev]

My question is, how fast should one expand. Like when should you found your second and third cities and so forth.

 

[Wodan]

Save your culture bombs (great artists) for exactly this situation.

Wodan

 

[Astax]

Seriously, whenever I start a game on Noble, it goes pretty smoothly, but always, always, ALWAYS, some other nation just declares war on me for absolutely no reason. I say "yes," to all of their trade proposals, and do nothing to get them angry, yet one or two of them always end up declaring war on me early on in the game (before I can give them gifts that aren't cities). So then they go around pillaging all my improvements, destroying my resources, and capturing my cities, throwing my Civ-score to rock-bottom.

And if it's not them, it's those fscking Barbarians that come from nowhere and never stop attacking.

I seriously need help. What am I doing wrong?

You dont have a big enough army to discourage the AI. The relations may be possitive but even one negative can set the AI off if your army is lacking. And Im not just talkigna bout a few units to defend your city, Im talking about a spare stack of units to coutner anything he can have comming your way. One thing about war with AI is its easy to predict. He will have a huge surplus of units in a city closest to your boarder, or he'll be sailing an armada your way. Just need to have good intel on him. I had a game where I was great friends with Alexander, he was on a smaller continent just a bit south of me. But I saw him build up a huge army thnx to my religion in his city. I moved my stack from one side of my emprie where I ended the war. Apparently he was unfazed and landed 3 turns later and I pulverized his stack :/ Then I took one of his citeis, still he wouldnt ask for peace, finally I started pillaging his towns and that got his attention.

Sometiems the AI just thinks he can get awaywith something, he'll do it. There's no sure way to keep yourself out of war, this isnt part 2 :/

 

[Dakhor]

Always keep an eye on your military position - how many soldiers you have compared to the rest of the Civs - if ur last - ur asking for trouble.

A good way to beat lower diff lvls ( monarch and lower ) is to settler rush. Simply build a worker first - then settlers while ur worker is chopping trees. I usually have atleast double the ammount of cities compared to the AI. There is a magic number to how fast u can expand - that depends on ur diff lvl and what resources u have in ur lands.

Sure this sets u back at first - but then you just speed past all the AI.

I would like to see some more penalties to this though - like u cant build a settler in cities bellow pop 3. Would make things more interesting.

/DaK/