Catharsis Denied

Strategoz

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I am not a skilled player. I play for the narrative, the melodrama, wiping away of the smug look on Caesar's face as his empire crumbles around him.

Playing as Venice for the first time, for a domination victory, I found Marie Teresa of Austria an irritating opponent as her arranged marriages eroded my City State opportunities. In the late game I had achieved disarmament at the UN but she was still threatening me with nukes. At the final showdown she was as good as her word and the mushroom cloud rose - I only then realized the treaty did not apply to pre-existing weapons :eek:

Foolishly I rushed aid to the area and my workers started repairing the damage. She nuked me again and wiped out my innocent workforce. Now it's personal . . .

Finally she was driven back to Vienna and as my Death Robot beat down the door of her chambers I anticipated her realization of defeat . . .

And then I was told I had won the game. No self-pitying diatribe, no dignified acceptance of defeat or honourable exit. Nothing. I 'played a few more turns'. Nope.

What has happened here that you don't get the defeat scene of your final opponent, the one whose downfall should be the climax of the experience?
 
As far as I know, you don't get any such screen just for winning. But you do get such a screen if you wipe out an opponent completely.

So if you want to see one, just strike her down! finish her off.
 
Heerlo is correct; if you completely wipe a civ off the map, their leader will admit defeat with a unique screen. Catherine's is... interesting.
 
I was obviously not clear. I struck her down as the last opponent and did not get her screen admitting defeat. It seems that in a domination victory you don't get to see the defeat screen of the last one you take down - unless there is something I am missing. I am very happy to go and finish her off a again :D
 
So you took all of Maria's cities? The defeat screen won't show unless she is completely removed from the map.

I can't confirm that the defeat screen will show if taking her capital takes out her last city since I only rarely completely destroy an enemy and I never do it where I win the game in the same turn.
 
Heerlo is correct; if you completely wipe a civ off the map, their leader will admit defeat with a unique screen. Catherine's is... interesting.
:lol:
Catherine: Take me back to your palace fondling chamber if you must!
Me: ...What?
Catherine: You must!
 
I think most people did not understand OP's question properly.

To OP:It is true that the winning screen supersede the *defeat* screen for the last opponent you wipe off the map.

To everyone else, OP was asking why he did not receive Austria defeat screen and proposed the theory that it was because she was the last opponent in his game, thus making him the winner, which prompted the victory screen.
 
Oh, sorry for the mis-understanding. :crazyeye:
 
Yes confirmed - if I take the last city of the last opponent AND that is their capital AND I thereby win a domination victory then I don't get the *defeat* screen, even if I say yes to more turns :(
 
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