China's Population

[Ren]

I stumbled over this site, youse should take a look! It has a counter of China's births....I don't know just how accurate it is, but interesting nevertheless

Edit 1: Forgot to put in the link http://www.cpirc.org.cn/eindex.htm

 

[santo67]

It looks about right.

I once saw something like this for the entire planet. It hadn't been updated in a while for increasing birthrates, as the population was like 5.8 billion or something (we had hit 6 billion when I saw it). But it was still something to behold. It had seperate little counters for world population in civilized and in third-world countries. I don't know what it considered third-world, but it had a higher population and growth rate for them. Lots higher.

 

[BlueMonday]

Humans, the herd animal.

And if you really want think about something, imagine how many of those people could be killed within the hour. All it would take is to press a few buttons and then...BOOM.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

China's population doesn't bother me unduly. They have "birth control" methods that work, however brutal they may be. I worry about India. Their population went over a billion last year, and there are no controls in place to slow it down.

 

[Morgasshk]

true... that is disturbing now that you mention it....

Only about 35-40 years ago though china was at about 700 mil
and india at 400 mil....

Now china's cranking to 1.3bil and india at 1.05bil... you tell me whos catching up eh?

2/5ths of the worlds population in only two countries is kinda crazy...

and when you add in USA, Indonesia and Brazil (280M, 230M and 170M) you have about half the world population in only 5 countries of the world...

Kinda scary really.... (Ok, fine not really,,, but in Australia with only 20 mil I feel part of a small country!)

Morgasshk

 

[amadeus]

I don't worry about overpopulation...as soon as the world becomes too heavily populated in central Asia, they'll find a reason to start a nuclear war. Maybe a good name for the new country would be "Pancakeistan"

 

[Ren]

Has Australia reached 20,000,000 people already?? News to me

 

[G-Man]

Originally posted by Sparrowhawk
China's population doesn't bother me unduly. They have "birth control" methods that work, however brutal they may be. I worry about India. Their population went over a billion last year, and there are no controls in place to slow it down.

And when a coutry has lots of people but not nough productivity they get in trouble and then the rest of the world is called to give them aid... I'm for giving aid to countries already in povetry but India can act against over population and I suggest they do so. I'd prefer a country where you can't have more then 1 kid over a country where you have 10 kids and they're dumped in the street like lost dogs.



"about half the world population in only 5 countries of the world... "

Well it makes it easier to use rmsharpe's plan...

"find a reason to start a nuclear war"


Anyway, Morgasshk, Israel has 6 million people. 1 of every thousand humans is Israeli. Just so you'll understand how few it is - if the US would face an intifada like Israel is facing and would've lost the same precentage of it's citizens that Israel lost it would mean 20,000 Americans will die + over 1,000 foreigners. If it would've been China they would loose almost 100,000 people.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

Anyway, Morgasshk, Israel has 6 million people. 1 of every thousand humans is Israeli. Just so you'll understand how few it is - if the US would face an intifada like Israel is facing and would've lost the same precentage of it's citizens that Israel lost it would mean 20,000 Americans will die + over 1,000 foreigners. If it would've been China they would loose almost 100,000 people.

Yes ,but there are way more than 6million Jew's on this worl ,considering the number of Jews that live's in other country's.

There are also more Chinese than people would think.Official figure's say there are 1billion chinese in China ,but it could be more as a lot of Chinese don't register their children when they get over 1 or 2 children ,as they have to pay for them.

In addition the ammount of Chinese living abroad is estimated on about 400million.A lot of the Indochinese country's and country's like Indonesia and Australia have a lot of Chinese immigrated in their country.I think for Australia the chinese population is already almost 40% of the total population.

 

[Greadius]

Originally posted by rmsharpe
I don't worry about overpopulation...as soon as the world becomes too heavily populated in central Asia, they'll find a reason to start a nuclear war. Maybe a good name for the new country would be "Pancakeistan"

Perhaps not Nuclear, but you're not far from the truth. There is a theory widely respected amongst the political science/international relations crowd about how lateral pressure and border disputes develop, and that they inherently lead to war.

The gist of it is that when people feel crowded, they expand, when they expand too far, they fight, when the fight, they die, when they're dead, they have more room.

Humans can't overpopulate; we'd starve or kill one another first.

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by santo67
I don't know what it considered third-world, but it had a higher population and growth rate for them. Lots higher. [/B]

High birthrates and poverty are synergistic. they reinforce each other. Cildren are the #1 cause of poverty; they consume a lot and produce very little. Adults tend to earn more as they get older.
One example: when your age-normalize african american families and caucasian families in the USA (ie compairng families of the same age distribution) close to 80% (the % is likely out of date by now, the last time I studies it was 25 years ago, but you get the idea) of the income diffirence between the two race's is gone; the preponderant amount of the diference appears to be caused by the difference in age of the populations. The surest way to have a lifetime of poverty in the USA and around the world is have more children and have them when you are younger.

 

[basta72]

Just for comparison, the total population of Europe was 728 million in 1995. But it´s not increasing, it´s declining

 

[Dell19]

Originally posted by basta72
Just for comparison, the total population of Europe was 728 million in 1995. But it´s not increasing, it´s declining

Actually I thought it was still just about increasing, but its not really suprising. The interesting thing, with a low growth rates can be that suddenly we will be supporting too many people. We have too many people not working, with too few people working to support them.

Also China's birth control method is not exactly successful. Rich families tend to get a round it and I would guess that remote villages wouldn't be checked very often...There are other countries like Peru who have had far more success from educating the people to have less children, rather than forcing it on them.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Dell19
Actually I thought it was still just about increasing, but its not really suprising. The interesting thing, with a low growth rates can be that suddenly we will be supporting too many people. We have too many people not working, with too few people working to support them.

You mean an ageing population? Yes, it's the bane of affluent societies everywhere incl Japan and Singapore.

Also China's birth control method is not exactly successful. Rich families tend to get a round it and I would guess that remote villages wouldn't be checked very often...There are other countries like Peru who have had far more success from educating the people to have less children, rather than forcing it on them.

China's population is way under-reported. I'll think it's 1.5 billion or more. The peasants in the country tend to have more children and they don't report them to the Party. Or the census-takers. Even the census office admitted irregularities in their census-taking process.

Read somewhere, now there's a plan for couples to have more than 1 kid, if they can pay the tax for the additional child.

 

[knowltok2]

Originally posted by Greadius

Humans can't overpopulate; we'd starve or kill one another first.

Thank goodness. You mean we only have to worry about starvation and war as a result of too many people? Overpopulation had me really concerned, but now I see that it isn't that big of deal.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. It's early.

 

[scorch]

Originally posted by rmsharpe
I don't worry about overpopulation...as soon as the world becomes too heavily populated in central Asia, they'll find a reason to start a nuclear war. Maybe a good name for the new country would be "Pancakeistan"

i think ol' george will beat them.

 

[Greadius]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
The surest way to have a lifetime of poverty in the USA and around the world is have more children and have them when you are younger.

So you're saying all we need to do to solve world poverty is stop people from having sex?

And here I thought it would be difficult.

Originally posted by knowltok2
Thank goodness. You mean we only have to worry about starvation and war as a result of too many people? Overpopulation had me really concerned, but now I see that it isn't that big of deal.

You're absolutely right Those ARE the only problem. The point was that population control is unnecessary since the net result is the same, right? The maximum population of the world is equal to the current population at any given time.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders
A lot of the Indochinese country's and country's like Indonesia and Australia have a lot of Chinese immigrated in their country.

I think for Australia the chinese population is already almost 40% of the total population.

What the f**k are you talking about?!!!?
The Chinese population in Australia is nowhere near even 4%, let alone 40%. The total Asian population is not even near 4%!
Do get your facts right, quacker.
I guess this proves that being a Belgian commie can be very harmful to your counting ability...

The overpopulation in China and India is a concerning matter, as is the situation in Indonesia, but never fear, those intrepid boffins at the Directorate of Spoons are working on an effective solution...

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

High birthrates and poverty are synergistic. they reinforce each other. Cildren are the #1 cause of poverty; they consume a lot and produce very little. Adults tend to earn more as they get older. One example: when your age-normalize african american families and caucasian families in the USA (ie compairng families of the same age distribution) close to 80% (the % is likely out of date by now, the last time I studies it was 25 years ago, but you get the idea) of the income diffirence between the two race's is gone; the preponderant amount of the diference appears to be caused by the difference in age of the populations. The surest way to have a lifetime of poverty in the USA and around the world is have more children and have them when you are younger.

Well in Europe ,or atleast in my country this is different.Our system of social security provide's people with "child-money" ,that mean's you get money for every extra child you give birth to ,and it's quite a lot of money.Just to give you a figure ,my mother had 3 children (me and my brothers) ,and she got as "child money" about 450$ every month from the state for us.Afcourse ,all this is paid by the taxes ,and those are pretty high in Belgium ,But nobody complaint's ,as we get free health-care and education (and all of quite a good quality) ,and other social benifit's.

Hey i like our social paradise.

 

[TheDuckOfFlanders]

What the f**k are you talking about?!!!?
The Chinese population in Australia is nowhere near even 4%, let alone 40%. The total Asian population is not even near 4%!
Do get your facts right, quacker.

Well ,my source for that was a documentary of Clive James.I don't know ,must have heard that wrong.

Anyway ,i think that my figure of 400million Chinese living Abroad is pretty correct ,although i'm not sure anymore.
And most Chinese living abroad live in the Indochina-Indonesia region.

What i was saying is that there are Probably way more etnic Chinese than the figure's say.Maybe 1.5Billion in total or even more.