Christian Millennialism LF christian input

[Elta]

Millennialism (or chiliasm), from millennium, which literally means "thousand years", is primarily a belief expressed in some Christian denominations, and literature, that there will be a Golden Age or Paradise on Earth where "Christ will reign" prior to the final judgment and future eternal state, primarily derived from the book of Revelation 20:1-6. Millennialism as such is a specific form of Millenarianism.

In Christianity, this is not the "end of the world", but the penultimate age, prior to when it is believed that the world will end. Some believe that between the millennium and the final end of the world there will be a brief period to allow a final battle with Satan, or a time of the Anti-Christ, followed by the last judgment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism
Okay so the way I was taught was that no one except satan has been judged yet and that 140,000 "elect" people will reign with christ for 1,000 years where everyone is taught the bible day in day out for 1,000 years, wouldn't that make worship now kind of pointless?

anyways my question is what is said or not said in your denomination about Millenarianism?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

At some point, Jesus is going to return. First there will be a bunch of conflict, and the church will have to do certain things (like build a bunch of building in Missouri). There are a lot of specifics (it is important, it is even somewhat reflected in our name) but no dates. I personally don't really care all that much; I figure I will be dead before any of it happens.

 

[Elta]

At some point, Jesus is going to return. First there will be a bunch of conflict, and the church will have to do certain things (like build a bunch of building in Missouri). There are a lot of specifics (it is important, it is even somewhat reflected in our name) but no dates. I personally don't really care all that much; I figure I will be dead before any of it happens.

I was under the impression that since no one is judged yet everyone who ever lived will be there in the 1,000 years no?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I was under the impression that since no one is judged yet everyone who ever lived will be there in the 1,000 years no?

I am not sure what the Mormon answer to that is. I am fairly sure, however, that those who died before the Second Coming will stay where they are in the Spirit World. Meanwhile, apparently those who are on the earth will live normal lives and then die, although death will work differently.

 

[Chieftess]

A lot of imagery there is more symbolic, so it isn't going to be 1,000 years. Otherwise, you could change the future. i.e., "Oh, hey! It's December 31st, year 999, let's get ready!".

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Especially considering that Gregory got it wrong, so 2000 AD wasn't 2000 years exactly after anything important.

 

[Shaihulud]

A very dangerous belief, supposing that only 140,000 people would get into heaven, and its written somewhere. There would be a temptation to make sure that you are included in that 140,000, by destroying or disguising the knowledge of how to be one of the 140,000 for one. By killing everyone except for 139,999 person. Why in the world convince anyone to be one of the 140,000, because that lessens your chance to be one of the lucky 140,000.

 

[classical_hero]

There is absolutely no imagery in that passage. Now for this thread, I think we need to have the passage in question shown.

Revelations 20:1-6 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Now show me how thee is imagery in this passage.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

It's 144,000 - 12,000 per tribe of Israel. And the Jehovah's Witnesses, who i think are the only ones who really believe that only a thousand gross shall make it to heaven, believe they have been prechosen. They believe everyone else who was righteous will have paradise on earth.

 

[Shaihulud]

Well, it makes sense that they believe that 140,000 odd goes to the special place and the rest goes to the nice but not special place. Otherwise they wouldn't have preached so much. Not to be mean, but i think i will prefer paradise on Earth.