christianity questions

[bigmeat]

question 1: what happened to all the monophysite in egypt and the levant, why did they disappear or convert, when did the disappear?

question 2: are lebanese Christians orthodox or catholic remnants of the crusader states, or monophysites

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

Don't know the answer to the first question, but in regards to the second I remember it being complicated. The Christians in Lebanon IIRC are Marionites (or is it spelt Maronite?); which evolved from the earlier patriarchate of Antioch. The Marionites existed from the 400s, but only became a separate Patriarchate in the late 7th Century. During the Crusades, they joined the Catholic Church, and have remained Catholic ever since.

Edit: BTW, they are Monothelites, which is the idea that Jesus had only one will despite being human and divine.

 

[Inhalaattori]

question 1: what happened to all the monophysite in egypt and the levant, why did they disappear or convert, when did the disappear?

Have they disappeared? I believe there are still monophysites in Egypt.

 

[Abulafia]

question 1: what happened to all the monophysite in egypt and the levant, why did they disappear or convert, when did the disappear?

They are the Coptic Church. There's an Ethiopian Church and a Syrian Church too. There's probably more.

 

[Squonk]

question 1: what happened to all the monophysite in egypt and the levant, why did they disappear or convert, when did the disappear?

Monophysites
in Egypt - still alive, though only a minority (Coptic church, 6-14% of Egypt)
part joined catholic church in last centuries
in Syria - (jacobites)still alive, though part formed Maronite church, part
joined catholics in
last centuries. Christians are 10% of Syria, most of them are
monophysites
in Lebanon and Palestine/Israel they exist, but are insignificant today
Originally, lebanon and Palestine was mostly monophysite,
but patriarch Iuvenalis (I think) managed to force orthodoxy
in Palestine, and in Lebanon, majority joined
monotheletism (an attempt to unite orthodoxy with
monophysistism) and evolved into maronite church
Turkey - Armenians and Arabs/Syrians expelled or killed in XX century
Iraq - there used to be a monophysite church with center in Tikrit, probably
some still exist, but not many of them
Armenia - alive and majority of population
Azerbeydzan - alive Armenians in Karabach and converted to islam Caucasian
Albanians
Georgia - converted to orthodox church quickly on Byzantine demand in early
MA
Sudan (Nubia) - converted to islam in late MA
Ethiopia, Eritrea - alive, about a half of population

question 2: are lebanese Christians orthodox or catholic remnants of the crusader states, or monophysites

As majority of Syrians, citizens of this region turned to monophysitism.
Under Heraclius' rule, monoergetism and monotheletism later were proclaimed the official statesment, thus uniting (some) monophysites with orthodoxy. Bost sides were displeased, and popes eventually acted ageinst monotheletism, which brought it to fall in Byzantine Empire - however, as Lebanon was captured by Arabs, its citizens remained montheletic, and Maronite church formed of it (I remember that the name of it was due to some non-existing today monastery).
Monothelethism was accenting one will in Christ (while monophysitism claimed one nature, and orthodoxy 2 natures in him; monothelethism just attempted to omit the problem)
They say crusaders were pretty suprised to notice the monotheletism still existed.
Yup, somewhere around then the maronites joined union with catholic church