City names?

[impressive]

Ok, Im playing my home civ of England for the first time in ages.
Im not impressed to find out that Manchester (Englands third city) is the 20th city to be built!

Although last time I was English, im sure i built 'Coventry' before 'Leeds'.


Sorry, i know this sounds confusing...


get to my point...


...are the cities built in random order, and if not, does anyone know why the cities were chose in the order that they come?


is the the most bizarre question or what! lol.

 

[Arturo]

I think it has something to do with Manchester kinda being viewed by the rest of England as something of a quaint hick town and not to be taken seriously.




...just kidding. As far as I know they are built in the same order each time, but I'm pretty sure it would be pretty easy to change the order, or even put your own names in. I don't know how they came up with the order they are in. I would have thought it was by size. Or maybe actual build order?

 

[Esckey]

I think they're built in order of importance. Look at America, New York and Boston came before Washington...........right? I'm not an American so I don't know that much about the cities and history

 

[impressive]

it cant be order of importance, i mean Brighton, Norwich, Leeds, Reading, Richmond (never heard of it!), Exeter, Gloucester came before Manchester. Those cities are quite small, and had no impact on English history as far as i know.

I understand why York, Oxford, Hastings etc are in there. But manchester is an important English city. and one of the oldest. been here since Roman times!!

(sorry...im getting carried away with civic pride!)

 

[Peri]

In the editor it shows the list of cities for each civilisation and in the order they will be built in. therefore you can customise it so Manchester is always the capital if you like.

 

[Drewcifer]

I've found the order of cities to be rather arbitrary for many of the civs. For example Seattle (which was one of the last cities to be founded in real life) is one of the early American cities but Los Angeles is way down the list - after Buffalo.

 

[WildFire]

This is what happens with city names.

If you press B to build a city but than press the X or press esc to cancel it and press B again, the list will have skipped over the name of the city as if it was already built.

If you just press B and keep building, the names will stay in order.

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

The city names are arranged in order of past and present importance after the capital. Since Manchester was a relatively unknown village until the industrial revolution, it is late in the list. Impressive, I think that most of those cities were capitals of Anglo-Saxon kingdoms or important regions of England in times past.

 

[impressive]

fair enough. I can cope with that.


I've got another question now though. Why do the celts have the Roman celt names. why not use irish and Welsh place names? like in call to power. such as cardiff, carmarthen, Aberystwyth etc?

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

The Celts in CTP were probably centred around the British Celts. The Celts in Civ 3 seem to be of the entire Celtic people, centred ancient France. I don't know much about the Celts, but I guess that since it is centred around France and no ancient Celtic names of places survived, they just used the Roman names.

 

[Quasar1011]

I think a lot of the city name lists could be altered. I used to live near both Buckingham and Huntingdon, England, (thus me Young Ones avatar)which were both mideval county towns. I like to alter the list to add those and make them more prominent. And why Luxor was left off the Egyptian list, I dunno Anyway, I'd rather see the lists ordered by historical importance, not city size. This means that York, Canterbury and Colchester should be very high on the English list; and that Hartford, Providence, Savannah and Charleston should appear high on the American list. But that's just my 2 cents/pence worth.

 

[Roundman]

I think that the city lists are too short, especially for the modern civs. There could be hundreds of cities for the Germans, British, French, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Americans, etc., yet they run out of new names after around 15 cities. Its not that big of a deal, I just don't understand why that is. Doesn't Firaxis have an atlas?

 

[Mr Black]

Originally posted by Roundman
I think that the city lists are too short, especially for the modern civs. There could be hundreds of cities for the Germans, British, French, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Americans, etc., yet they run out of new names after around 15 cities. Its not that big of a deal, I just don't understand why that is. Doesn't Firaxis have an atlas?

You know what else isn't a big deal.

Adding the other cities in the EDITOR, yourself!!!

 

[Roundman]

Originally posted by Mr Black

You know what else isn't a big deal.
Adding the other cities in the EDITOR, yourself!!!

I already did that. I was just wondering what their reasons were for the short lists.

 

[Drewcifer]

Originally posted by Roundman


I already did that. I was just wondering what their reasons were for the short lists.

Probably because of deadlines and the fact that paying people to do it costs money. I hear the computer gaming market is not too profitable these days.