City-state relations

[Ermak-]

After your 2nd attack on city state. They will announce that they grow weary of you invasions , and you relation rate will start decreasing with ALL city-states at 200% rate. If doesnt matter if you tried to help one state by conqoring the other. Even your ally's relations will decrease more rapidly for the rest of the game. Is there a way to reverse it?

 

[Vasil]

No - once you have annoyed the city states there is no way back ...

BTW - I think the same applies for the major powers - once you wipe out one or two of them, the rest will consider you a warmonger no matter how much time you sit tight after this. Or at least I didn't notice the red "they consider you a warmongering menace to the world" to disappear from the relation affecting factors.

 

[1TimeCivPlaya]

i think its best to avoid war at all costs while going for any victory type OTHER then military way. im not sure though, but if u just play defensivly and just let them come to you. the over civs wont hate you. i think

 

[wcbarney]

i think its best to avoid war at all costs while going for any victory type OTHER then military way. im not sure though, but if u just play defensivly and just let them come to you. the over civs wont hate you. i think

Just the opposite! Avoid peace at all costs. No, really, you should be at least strong enough to defend yourself against your nearest AI neighbor -- who will nearly always declare war eventually. The weaker you are (or seem to be) the more likely the AI civs will DW. With City-States, I recommend never going to war (except once, perhaps, early in the game, where you might want to steal a worker -- then make peace on the same turn).

Who cares if the other civs hate you? I guess it's nice to be able to sell your luxuries to someone, but other than that the other civs can just go suck eggs.

 

[1TimeCivPlaya]

Just the opposite! Avoid peace at all costs. No, really, you should be at least strong enough to defend yourself against your nearest AI neighbor -- who will nearly always declare war eventually. The weaker you are (or seem to be) the more likely the AI civs will DW. With City-States, I recommend never going to war (except once, perhaps, early in the game, where you might want to steal a worker -- then make peace on the same turn).

Who cares if the other civs hate you? I guess it's nice to be able to sell your luxuries to someone, but other than that the other civs can just go suck eggs.

Good point, i just find it very annoying when ALL of the other civs wont give me good deals on luxories. example - 150gold for 30 turns of silk

 

[chazzycat]

You can usually get away with attacking one city state without any consequences. Any more is pushing it...but I think you can stay at war indefinitely with that one CS. That way you can use their troops as target practice

 

[bryanw1995]

Yes, you get one freebie CS sneak-attack (or major civ sneak attack for that matter). If you eliminate any civ (CS is counted the same as a major civ in this case) then your warmonger-y-ness goes through the roof with everybody. However, if you have a small continent/isolated start, if you can wipe out everybody you see before meeting the rest of the world nobody even knows about your past evil warmongering ways (SSHSHHH).