Civ 3 texts edited with Windows-Editor 11.2504.62.0 in Win 11

[Civinator]

Since about half a year I have a new pc working with Win 11 and a new version of of the windows editor. I edited all Civ 3 texts with wordpad since decades, but now I watched a bad surprise when starting CCM 3. The scenario crashed during uploading. C3C could not find the entries of Admiral Yi´s Navy and Vasco da Gama´s Voyage any longer, so these entries were working very well with older versions of the pediaIcons file, created with wordpad in Win 10, Win 7 and earlier. I changed nothing in both entries but added something other with the windows editor in Win 11 to the pediaIcons file and saved it.

This crippled the complete file !! Instead of Admiral Yi´s Navy there is now a hole in Yi´s, where former was an apostrophe.

Even the complete civilopedia file now is spoiled after adding something to that text file with Win 11 editor and saving it. Here is an example with the civilopedia entry of the battlecruiser HMS Hood, so nothing in that special entry was changed.

The new spoiled Win 11 entry:

The old entry before Win 11:

Another example:

Einstein after Win 11 editor:

Einstein entry created with Win 10 wordpad:

I want my old Win 10 wordpad back !

 

[timerover51]

That looks like a nasty surprise. However, as you are using Windows 11, did you download Civilizations 3 from Steam, or load it in another way. I may switch to a Windows 11 computer, and was wondering about that.

 

[Arexander]

I prefer using Notepad++ for any text-file editing, and it works on Win11 just as it did in Win10.

In regards to Civ3 on Win11, I have it from Steam and so far noticed no weird behaviour. I do also have a backup from GOG just-in-case, but haven't had to resort to it just yet.

 

[timerover51]

I prefer using Notepad++ for any text-file editing, and it works on Win11 just as it did in Win10.

In regards to Civ3 on Win11, I have it from Steam and so far noticed no weird behaviour. I do also have a backup from GOG just-in-case, but haven't had to resort to it just yet.

Thanks for the reply. I use Notepad++ for my game editing as well.

 

[Civinator]

That looks like a nasty surprise. However, as you are using Windows 11, did you download Civilizations 3 from Steam, or load it in another way. I may switch to a Windows 11 computer, and was wondering about that.

I use the Civ 3 Complete version from GOG and additionally also the Civ 3 Complete version coming on cd with the Chronicles compilation. The problem with the edition of text files has nothing to do with the problem, that the steam version of Civ 3 complete is playing havoc with most texts of C3C mods and scenarios that are not created with that steam version (and this are nearly all Civ 3 mods and scenarios), as the steam problem is triggered by the fact, that here an additional line was added in the middle of the labels text file, moving all following text in that file to a wrong position.

 

[timerover51]

Thanks for the reply, Civinator. I think that I will get the GOG version.

 

[Civinator]

Thanks for the reply, Civinator. I think that I will get the GOG version.

The GOG version is also the better one if you use the C3X mod created by Flintlock, as C3X is created by using the GOG version and later is only adapted to the steam version of Civ 3 complete.

If you hurry up, you can at present buy the Gog version of Civ 3 Complete in a special sale for only 99 cent.

 

[timerover51]

The GOG version is also the better one if you use the C3X mod created by Flintlock, as C3X is created by using the GOG version and later is only adapted to the steam version of Civ 3 complete.

If you hurry up, you can at present buy the Gog version of Civ 3 Complete in a special sale for only 99 cent.

I will be getting it.

 

[Civinator]

I prefer using Notepad++ for any text-file editing, and it works on Win11 just as it did in Win10.

Arexander, thank you very much for your answer.

 

[WildWeazel]

I'm sorry to hear that Civinator, and hope that you have recent backups of your working files. Corruption like this is just one example of what can go wrong when editing mod files, and highlights the need to be able to restore previous revisions. I've been thinking about redoing my old version control tutorial to use git and GitHub which are now far more popular options.

I third the recommendation for Notepad++. Wordpad in particular is a bad choice because it is not strictly a plain text editor but allows text formatting. It looks like what happened was that it changed some of your text to use Unicode characters like "smart quotes" and em dashes while you were editing, then quietly replaced them with whitespace when saving to plain ASCII text. I'm a little surprised to see that you had quotes/apostrophes in your pedia entry names - those are often forbidden characters in anything parsed by a program, so I guess I've always implicitly avoided them. That's beside the point, but for those cases at least it should be an easy fix if you don't have a recent good version to go back to.