Civ 4 Ideas

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Well, sadly it seems that all of the 'features' of Civ 3 are locked in. Too bad, kind of. There was some real potential there. I do think it will be a good game of course. In fact, it should be as fantastic as Civ II. In fact, it <u>IS</u> Civ II with some nice features brought back from Civ I, better combat arrangements and some nicer graphics/music. So I guess I'll go ahead and start a Civ 4 wish list and who knows?

1) More than 7 civs allowed in a game. I say open this can of worms up all the way and let the MAX be over a hundred.

Not too much comment needed here. Probably everybody thought this would be in Civ 3. We'll just have to wait....

2) Allow Golden Ages to be played in generic games with triggers based on relative Civ strengths, both internal and compared to other Civs.

This is such an awesome concept! It's sad to see how it has been wasted on poor implementation in Civ 3. This has also been thoroughly discussed in the Civ 3 forums.


3) Civ-specific units that are tied to technology advances and optional at that point.

Another great concept spoiled by implementation (Historical accuracy, BLAH! That's what Mods are for.)
Some nice implementations have already been put forth and augmented in the Civ 3 suggestions forum. Basically when you gained a tech that led to a special unit (be it a combat unit or otherwise), you could then choose whether to go ahead and have that unit be your civ-specific unit. If there are multiple units, you could pick one. They AREN'T tied to Golden Ages in any way.

4) Another level of future technologies.

This has been tried in other games and to a very small extent in this game. But things have gotten out of hand a bit mostly because of implementation. My idea: Have a list of advanced techs that are randomly chosen from at the start up of a game. They each have their associated special improvements or units or even wonders that they allow. If I were Firaxis, I would just collect the 50 best ideas from here, flesh them out, make sure any combo works well together and have a random choice of say, twenty, chosen at the start of the game. Maybe this would work. It would certainly leave in the aspect of the nearly infinite possibilities of civilization development. Heck, they could try this for ALL the levels of technology.



[This message has been edited by Flak (edited August 25, 2001).]
 
This is the Off Topic right?
 
Originally posted by Eli:
This is the Off Topic right?

There is currently no forum for Civ 4 discussions, or even a general Civilization forum. (Current Civ forums cover Civ 1/2/3)

Therefore Civ 4 discussions are off-topic, and until there is a Civ 4 forum (Or TF says otherwise <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0>) the OT is the place for Civ 4 discussions.

EDIT: And here is a promise!!! Civ 4 OT topics will be moved to a Civ 4 forum.....when we get one.

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And now for my general poster mode....

Originally posted by Flak:
1) More than 7 civs allowed in a game. I say open this can of worms up all the way and let the MAX be over a hundred.

Civ 3 allows 8 Civs!!!
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2) Allow Golden Ages to be played in generic games with triggers based on relative Civ strengths, both internal and compared to other Civs.

A good idea.....but it would be tough to implement based on the factors that you discribe. But an excellent idea!! And of course multiple Golden Eras are a must!!!


The rest of your ideas......no comment.
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Isn't it a bit early?

I really have no interest right now in civ IV!

I'm just waiting for III!

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Ive looked at your ideas - some I like, some I dont, some are completley impractical

However I dont care

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

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PLAY CIV3 FIRST

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Originally posted by Graeme the mad:
Ive looked at your ideas - some I like, some I dont, some are completley impractical

However I dont care

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

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PLAY CIV3 FIRST

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Yup! That's Graeme the MAD

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But still. he's right. Lets play civ III first!


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I think this is pretty damn stupid. Civ3 isn't even out yet. No one has played it yet and your already thinking about civ4. I mean this when i say this, "Get a life".
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Its just a not so steathly grouse about civ3 thread.
 
i agree with everyone thats giving Flak flak.... hahaha, **** i should be a comedian.

C3 aint out yet, shut the **** up for another 6mnths aye?

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Hey guys.....calm down.

He can say what ever he wants to say!!!

And he's right....Civ 3 features and limits are mostly known...so talking about how to improve them for Civ 4 isn't a bad idea. Also if Firaxis takes an agressive patching approach....Civ 4 idea could be included into Civ 3!!! Like StarCraft. Features have been added as the patches have come out.

So please guys....chill out and let the man speak his mind.

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Yeah right!

Chill out a bit. What happened to you?


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Hey guys... how's this for an idea in Civ 5........ Come on!
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Just bugging ya... but still, play Civ 3 first, maybe it will be unimprovable.

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Originally posted by Brad:
play Civ 3 first, maybe it will be unimprovable.

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I highly doubt that Civilization III will be "perfect". Nothing's ever perfect. People have different minds and interests and there will ALWAYS be something to complain about. Though, I'm sure it'll be good!
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People are saying stop giving ideas about Civ III and are teasing someone for giving ideas about Civ IV?
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I agree to wait for the game to come out, but still, he's just wanting to improve some of the stuff he knows for SURE to come out in Civ III.
 
What is happening here, is that Civ 4 is being created out of ideas for Civ II imrpovements. The thing is, you better first play Civ III and start thinking of ways to improve that game.

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I know that. But there are articles out there that gives you an idea of things in Civ III and that's what he seems to be creating the ideas out of. He thinks the ideas aren't as good as they can be and is trying to improve them for Civ IV or a Civ III expansion.
 
I also support the idea of play CivIII first... and talk afterwards! But some ideas expressed in this forum look like more CivIV oriented...
BTW I would like the idea of "leaving the Earth"... from Stone Age to the Stars and not only sending a ship to Alpha Centauri but making the bridge to SMAC and play it in a Civ way
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Well, I really didn't mean to knock Civ III. I really do believe it will be every bit as fine a game as it's predecessors. I was just hoping for some of the quantum leaps possible with such a game to be implemented now. I know I will spend an infinite amount of time having lots of fun with the game and learning it's nuances.

Since so much has already been revealed for Civ III, including some really nice new ideas (such as Golden Ages), I thought it would be neat to hear some of the ideas people had for a Civ 4 right now. Much Civ III is out and we know pretty much what it's going to be. Maybe, if everybody over at Firaxis see's how far ahead we are already thinking, they'll go ahead and start the Civ 4 project up as soon as the final patches of Civ III are out. There were some basic, to fantastic, ideas suggested over the years that will not see the light of day in Civ III. But Civ 4 is still around the corner.... <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/wink.gif" border=0> Also, I really don't think they can or will patch Civ 3 significantly enough to make the changes I suggested. I may be wrong there...

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Civ 2 came out on pc when? 5, 6, 7 years ago? Well guess what? Civ 4 probably won't be released for 5, 6, or seven years after civ3 is. That is, if there is a civ 4 at all
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Originally posted by drake:
Civ 2 came out on pc when? 5, 6, 7 years ago? Well guess what? Civ 4 probably won't be released for 5, 6, or seven years after civ3 is. That is, if there is a civ 4 at all <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif" border=0>.

I'm pretty sure the major reason for this delay was due to the ensuing legal battles that took place after the various 'clones' came out. After some curious, if not totally ironic, twists, all of that seems to have finally worked itself out. I therefore believe that there really is nothing standing in the way of a truly groundbreaking version of this already groundbreaking game coming out within the next 2 years. Right now, I see Civ III as sort of setting the tone for that eventual game. Like another poster put it in the Civ III forums, "Sid Meier is flexing his muscle with this game". I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear that they have already had some serious design meetings for Civ 4 and have a preliminary sketch. I say we get our ideas in now.
 
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