GreekAnalyzer
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From experience I can tell you that Civ 5 multiplayer is absolute crap. So only the first one would apply to the game-that-must-not-be-named.
Civ 4 still worth it ?
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From experience I can tell you that Civ 5 multiplayer is absolute crap. So only the first one would apply to the game-that-must-not-be-named.
Timsup2nothin
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'Designed for multi-player' is usually code for 'apparently they couldn't come up with decent AI'...so from what I hear it may apply in that regard.
epicivfreak
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I'm just curious as to exactly which article you're referring to, can you provide a link?
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The reviewer says "And yes, Age of Empires is far better than Civ 4."
OMG...
Reviewer is biased by his Civ3 experience.
Civ3 was a great game, no doubt, but, trying to play Civ4 same way as Civ3 can be painful experience. There is nice article about this on forum.
And do yourself favor, get it on CD, not from Steam. You will avoid many troubles.
I actually liked Age of Empries III more than Civ4 (vanilla) back in 2005 - 2007. Part of it was that AoE III ran better than Civ4 on the hardware I had at the time (at least for the map sizes I like to play in Civ), but part of it just was that AoE III at vanilla was a very good game, whereas it was really with BTS that Civ4 came into its prime.
Now that both have two expansions and I have hardware that can run both well, I usually prefer Civ4, and I've probably played Civ4 enough in 2009 - 2014 that I've now played it more than AoE3. But, while far better is probably a bit much, I can see preferring Age of Empires, particularly if it's a vanilla-vanilla comparison.
Age of Empires III also gets points for having aged well. Not being a graphics fanatic, I'm fine with Civ4's default graphics, but it's also clear that Civ4's graphics are no longer state of the art. AoE III's graphics technically aren't state of the art anymore either, but it's still a pretty darn beautiful game.
CFC is a much better community than what I've found for Age of Empires, for what it's worth.
I'm also curious which article you're referencing. I don't remember it, but I'm sure I can relate. I still often go near-bankrupt at some point in Civ4 games since I play it in some ways as if it were Civ3 (namely I like to expand quickly).
AdamCrock
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Worth IT !! Man .... every bit of the last steam coin or whatever You got there ! It is worth it !!!
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Using Steam: Install once (on any number of computers with no copy protection), never need to be online to play, and have your copy backed up forever so you don't have to keep track of a physical CD. I've bought many games a second time because they were cheap on Steam and it meant that I could toss physical copies.
Having said that, buy from this site's store to help support it if you don't mind physical CDs, but many of us enjoy not having to keep track of them.
I really don't want to get into another discussion like that - so just once for the slower people to graps: No, it's not forever. It's only as long as STEAM is around, does not go bankrupt or out of business, does not lose necessary licenses to keep the game online and also does not lose business interest in spending money for keeping the game online. As soon as that happens there's no way for you to reinstall/reactiveate your game, so once your hardware breakes down or you buy a new computer for whatever reason your game will be gone. Compared to that "forever" or even the durability of a standard CD/DVDis a rather very long time.
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I thought the review was stupid, but i got the advice not from the civ 4 review, but what he said about civ 4 in his civ 5 review :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QNaWcwiPZg
Yes, mea culpa. I have to admit I was kind of in a hurry to get home for the soccer World Cup. I guess I also left out the possibility of STEAM accounts beeing hacked or stolen.
Also I held back a little because in general I am a rather nice guy - so I would hate it to see STEAM followers lose their sleep over one of my posts...
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Timsup2nothin
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Yes, mea culpa. I have to admit I was kind of in a hurry to get home for the soccer World Cup. I guess I also left out the possibility of STEAM accounts beeing hacked or stolen.
Also I held back a little because in general I am a rather nice guy - so I would hate it to see STEAM followers lose their sleep over one of my posts...
I will look for you in the World Cup thread.
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Because there was no particular reason to let your off topic endorsement of Steam go unchallenged.
civfanchambers
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Off topic warning. Steam is the devil. Play with Steam "the devil" all you want, but eventually you will get burned. Back on topic - yes civ4 is still totally worth it. Any strategy game fan worth his/her salt should find a home for civ4 on their computer.
misterfilmgeek
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I was addressing a post in this thread (I even quoted it) with an alternate viewpoint. How, exactly, is that off-topic?
bestrfcplayer
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Totally worth it. I have hundreds if not thousands of hours dedicated to Civ IV since I got it oh, 5 or 6 years ago. And I still go back to it for the nostalgia feel every now and then.
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Because you picked out one line of the post to quote so you could create a steam topic without bothering to address the topic at hand. In his post that you quoted a piece of GPS fully addressed the topic of whether Civ IV is worth buying, including presenting available options for the purchase. The impression is that you have no interest in the actual topic but felt compelled to shill for Steam.
misterfilmgeek
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Again, how is my post off-topic? He brought up Steam (which is relevant to the topic) and I responded. If you don't want anything in a post to be slightly "off-topic", ever, then internet forums aren't for you.
I'm "shilling for Steam" in the same way that he's shilling for CD manufacturers. If a person had only ever read his post, they'd think Steam was The Devil Itself, which is clearly not the case in the vast majority of game-buyer's minds. He has every right to point out flaws in a service that sells the game we're here to discuss, and I have every right to point out his omissions about said service. Absolutely nothing was off-topic.
It wasn't necessary to contribute anything else as there wasn't anything else to add to or disagree with. Or did you want me to just post, "Agreed."?
