MoonSprite
Chieftain
- Joined
- Jan 13, 2002
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Hi all... been reading this forum for bit and just wanted to add my 2 cents....
I don't know if i'll be doing any new civs or mods, but maybe someone will use my idea....
I've seen many ppl doing Spain.... but you seem to be forgetting it's neighbour, Portugal....
(and yes, I'm Portuguese....)
Although Portugal is a small country right now.... It was the most powerful nation in the world somewhere between the 15th and 16th/17th century....
Some historical facts:
- Around the end of the 15th century Portugal and Spain divided the world between themselves (the Tordesilhas (or Tordesillas) treaty)
- Portugal invented several key instruments for navigation, as well as the Caravelle.
- Magellan was portuguese, although his voyage was spanish funded....
- The first explorer/collonialist power of europe was portugal
- Although the offical date for the portuguese discovery of Brazil was 1500 (after the treaty was signed), it is believed that Brazil had been discovered by portugal before colombus reached america, because portugal asked for the division line in the treaty to move 500 leagues westward (just enough to get brazil on "our" side of the world....
)
- Portugal discovered the sea route to india (actually, we owned most of it before the british got it....), most of africa and a nice bit of the southern coast of asia... we first brought rifles to japan....
- During it's apex, portugal was the most scientifically advanced nation of europe, the richest, and has the biggest and most powerful navy....
- Alas... during that very apex there was a succession crisis that resulted in losing our independence to spain for some years... (1581 - 1640)
- The spanish Invencible Armada that attacked Britain in 1588 was for the most part composed of Portuguese vessels...
...this all goes to show that portugal was one of the great civs of our world, specially during the 15th-16th centuries...
So, in Civ terms portugal could have any of the following traits:
Expansionist - obvious, i think
Commercial - The colonies portugal established were major trading points that allowed several resources from other continents to reach europe...
Militaristic - We did have the worlds largest navy...
Scientific - we did have major scientific research on all things of ships and navigation, as well as some medical advancements...
Religious - Throughout all of portugal's history, religion and the clergy have played a significant role... (as well as sponsoring most of our expeditions, it is suspected.... for some reason the portuguese ships all has a cross on its sails, one very similar to the Knight's Templar cross...)
Well... it's a bit long for 2 cents.... but just had to use this chance to spread some culture over these unwashed masses.... LOL!
I don't know if i'll be doing any new civs or mods, but maybe someone will use my idea....
I've seen many ppl doing Spain.... but you seem to be forgetting it's neighbour, Portugal....
(and yes, I'm Portuguese....)
Although Portugal is a small country right now.... It was the most powerful nation in the world somewhere between the 15th and 16th/17th century....
Some historical facts:
- Around the end of the 15th century Portugal and Spain divided the world between themselves (the Tordesilhas (or Tordesillas) treaty)
- Portugal invented several key instruments for navigation, as well as the Caravelle.
- Magellan was portuguese, although his voyage was spanish funded....
- The first explorer/collonialist power of europe was portugal
- Although the offical date for the portuguese discovery of Brazil was 1500 (after the treaty was signed), it is believed that Brazil had been discovered by portugal before colombus reached america, because portugal asked for the division line in the treaty to move 500 leagues westward (just enough to get brazil on "our" side of the world....
)- Portugal discovered the sea route to india (actually, we owned most of it before the british got it....), most of africa and a nice bit of the southern coast of asia... we first brought rifles to japan....
- During it's apex, portugal was the most scientifically advanced nation of europe, the richest, and has the biggest and most powerful navy....
- Alas... during that very apex there was a succession crisis that resulted in losing our independence to spain for some years... (1581 - 1640)
- The spanish Invencible Armada that attacked Britain in 1588 was for the most part composed of Portuguese vessels...
...this all goes to show that portugal was one of the great civs of our world, specially during the 15th-16th centuries...
So, in Civ terms portugal could have any of the following traits:
Expansionist - obvious, i think
Commercial - The colonies portugal established were major trading points that allowed several resources from other continents to reach europe...
Militaristic - We did have the worlds largest navy...
Scientific - we did have major scientific research on all things of ships and navigation, as well as some medical advancements...
Religious - Throughout all of portugal's history, religion and the clergy have played a significant role... (as well as sponsoring most of our expeditions, it is suspected.... for some reason the portuguese ships all has a cross on its sails, one very similar to the Knight's Templar cross...)
Well... it's a bit long for 2 cents....
but just had to use this chance to spread some culture over these unwashed masses.... LOL! 
