Civ Specific...Wonders

[Talkie_Toaster]

Mt. Rushmore--Big Ben?

*stirs up controversy for no readily apparent reason*

 

[sdLeo]

[creepy music followed by creepy voice]

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[fearuin]

Rome
Forbidden Palace--Constantine's Palace (needs better name)

Palace--Senate (Curia)

Palace: Better Domus Aurea. It was the Palace built by Augustus to hold the Imperial Family residence, the Chancelorship (head of administration) and August's offices, used after him by the next emperors.

Forbidden Palace: though it's too in Rome, I'll suggest the Geneva Palace. It was used as Palace of Government several times (most famous, during Mussolini's ruling).

Spain
Heroic Epic--Don Quixote
National Epic--Cantar de Mio Cid
Scotland Yard--Spanish Inquisition

Heroic Epic: Cantar de Mio Cid
National Epic: Episodios de Historia Nacional (Cantar de Mio Cid was not a moral example for the nation, there was no concept of Spain as nation, when was created, in fact; Episodios... it's the first compilation of Spanish History, excerpts the most important facts Spanish done in history - it's a National Epic literally! The author, if you're asking, is Benito Pérez Galdós).
Scotland Yard: Falange Española (Spanish Inquisition appears too early, and when Scotland Yard it's buildable, Spanish Inquisition was already dismissed; Falange Española operated on that period, much as the German Nazi SS, as a Politic Police and as a Secret Service).


I'll add some more:
Mali
Oxford University: University of Sankore (then we have to change that one).
Stock Exchange (Or National Epic?): Pilgrimage of Mansa Mussa

Carthage
Heroic Epic: Hannibal's Campaign
Palace: Hall of the Seven Hundred
Forbidden Palace: Hall of the Four Hundred (Carthagonova's Senate)

 

[Gaius Octavius]

In RFC these national wonders doesn't exist.

This is a list that I'm doing for Warlords; if they're not in RFC (and why the heck not escapes me), that's Rhye's loss. As Whitefire pointed out, we can simply add them as new content.

 

[mitsho]

it's because they are not at all national, but either made up or only a single monument (Oxford, forbidden palace, etc. ...) these have therefore been made world wonders. I'm indifferent on the matter.

mick

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Ah, I see... well, that makes sense. I suppose we can reintroduce NW's for these, but with different functions.

 

[fearuin]

That's a good idea, but will they have different effects for each civ, or just a different name? The first will be wonderful, but will it be doable? I guess it will, but it will also difficult to think different effects for each wonder and each civ. We can just try, in any case.

 

[Gaius Octavius]

Either one. The way I'm doing it, it's only a matter of defining it in XML. If we want it the same, we just set 'em all the same as the originals.

 

[fearuin]

Oh! Then it's easier than I expected. I thought Python files may be involved. Ok, what now we have to do is to define the effects for each wonder. It will take a while, but the sooner we start, the sooner we will end. I'll do it with Spain:

Cantar de Mio Cid: +4 , +2 (great artist). Xp costs for a Great General halved.

Episodios de Historia Nacional: +100% culture, +2 (great artist). +50% in that city.

Falange Española: Enables building spies, +2 Xp for any military unit built in that city.

 

[Mowque]

please englishize them... can we?

 

[fearuin]

OK, I'll try:

"Cantar de Mio Cid" = "Poem of My Lord" Though Cid is a person's name, so maybe it should be "Poem of My Cid".

"Episodios de Historia Nacional"= "Episodes of National History". This one was easy.

"Falange Española"= "Spanish Phalanx". Easy one, too.

However, I think they loose a bit of flavour translated. But I guess I wouldn't like Incan unique wonders on Incan lenguage, so it's OK. Everybody should be able to understand what is going to build!

 

[LuKo]

I like not translated names- if civs have their own not translated speeches so why national building have to be translated?

 

[Edungeon]

I like not translated names- if civs have their own not translated speeches so why national building have to be translated?

In RFC all the city names are in their original language. So i think it is OK to not "englishize" the names of Wonders.

 

[fearuin]

In RFC all the city names are in their original language. So i think it is OK to not "englishize" the names of Wonders.

Yes, that's what I think, too. However, I cannot refuse to translate it if I'm asked to. An example is "Episodios de Historia Nacional". If you translate it, you have a rather generic name, it could be featured by any civ, but if it's in Spanish tongue, then everybody will feel like it's a unique Spanish wonder. I think this will happen to almost any specific wonder. And, btw, why englishize wonders, since I play on my lenguage? I already have too many messages in English! I haven't problems at all with English, but, hey I have the same right to have them in Spanish as any English speaker on their tongue, no?

Well, I'm nitpicking a little, I guess. Put in the lenguage you like. If you want translate all wonders to Arabic. I'll traduce them back to Spanish for me, so I don't care!