Civ3 with Civ1 graphics?

[Matrix]

I've tried to teach my girlfriend Civ3, but was unsuccessful. Then I thought it might be better to learn her Civ1, and then let her make the step from Civ1 to Civ3. Of course then I played a game of Civ1 myself...and it's still addictive! But I'm beginning to think that those simply "awkward" graphics of Civ1 does the trick.

Nowaways all the new games should be as beautiful as possible, but why? The function of the graphics shouldn't be to be as beautiful as possible, but should be clear and..."nice". (Tough to explain.) Think of it as comics: the fact that comics are better than real photo's is the same reason that "old" graphics are better than "beatiful" new ones.

Coming back to Civ: don't you think that Civ3 with Civ1 graphics would be more addictive?

 

[Chieftess]

That would be a nice, nostalgic flair. Of course, the graphics will need to be stretched...

 

[Sultan Bhargash]

I'd rather civ2 with Civ3 graphics, but I'd certainly give the Civ1 mod a go...

 

[docceh]

lol any one brave enuff to undertake THAT mod!! get started... maybe it could be a civ 4 mod

 

[J-S]

I agree with you that graphics don't do the trick... in fact, I remember playing ATARI and I used to love it. IMO better graphics almost always mean a crappy gamplay, story, depth & eventually addiction. Games like Master of Magic where the graphics were a bunch of squares... and it is still one of the best strategy games I have ever played. Why? Because the graphic technology was not as developped... so what did game-makers do with spare time? Real games, not nice pics. Now it's 90% graphics, 10% story-gameplay-depth.

 

[hbdragon88]

In the Civ3 site where they had a legacy of Civ and I saw the Civ1 graphics...I personally don't like them too much. Then again, it was only a picture of a diplomatic screen with Elizabeth.

 

[NetDanzr]

I still like Civ 1 better than any other Civ, but I don't think it's caused by the graphics. IMHO, Civ 1 had the best balance in units, technologies and city improvements.

 

[cgannon64]

Originally posted by J-S
Now it's 90% graphics, 10% story-gameplay-depth.

I have to disagree. Most game-makers focus on graphics too much, but there are good games with good graphics. Anyway, on-topic: why should we go back to Civ1 graphics? Why, when we have come so far in graphics? I've always thought that graphics are important to gameplay, but they don't make the game. I'd much rather have Civ3 has it is now than Civ3 with early-90s graphics. As long as graphics don't became the focus of a game (coughfinalfantasycough), then I'd like them as realistic as possible.

CG

 

[Civddict]

civ 1 is the best!
for me civ 2 is plain ugly and wi(n)dowed!

and graphics rules too
talk with Alexander. He looks so great with red hair and his sword. Better then preferct shaved face today in civ 3.

Also one of best melodies I ever heard is Russian hymn in Civ 1.

 

[Matrix]

Very true, Civddict. However, I don't fully agree with J-S...

I've been thinking about it further. No normal game maker (like Firaxis) would think about making graphics in 320x200 with 256 colours. But it's the clarity and perhaps the "toyness" of the graphics that make it so much more fun. I mean, the game Civ3 is better, but still not as addictive as Civ1...

By the way, I thought everyone would declare me nuts.

 

[Civddict]

alexander looks like michael jackson. did you see his face from today??

 

[Yzman]

AHHHHHHH!!!!! Don't insult Alexander like that.....that picture is just too bad beyond imagine....

 

[KaNick]

I'm not sure if you modified that picture or not (if not M. Jackson is even creepier than I remember). But it does look strangley like Alexander.

 

[gugalpm]

Originally posted by Sultan Bhargash
I'd rather civ2 with Civ3 graphics, but I'd certainly give the Civ1 mod a go...

Agree!

 

[Sim_One]

Originally posted by Civddict
alexander looks like michael jackson. did you see his face from today??

OMG I thought Michael Jackson has already reached rock bottom...now I see this.

 

[Snoopy]

I can't believe how white the rest of his body is, how did they do that?

Anyway, making Civ3 look like Civ1 would not be hard and not take long, except it will still be isometric.

 

[Four Four Seven]

Does anybody else simply not care about the graphics or the sound? I play with all animations off and the sound down. (I've never actually listened to the music, I'd rather listen to music of my choice while playing.) Anything that doesn't add to the game's strategic aspects is essentially useless to me. So I wouldn't really care if we had Civ 1 graphics, or Civ 3, or whatever.

 

[Matrix]

That picture is not fake. Michael Jackson really has become that ugly.
Very very sad actually.

Originally posted by Snoopy
Anyway, making Civ3 look like Civ1 would not be hard and not take long, except it will still be isometric.

You mean that the squares are now actually diamonds?

I've started making a Civ1 mod. But I'm only working on the terrain yet. I'm not very easy with making custom units. Very complicated.

 

[hbdragon88]

Originally posted by Four Four Seven
Does anybody else simply not care about the graphics or the sound? I play with all animations off and the sound down. (I've never actually listened to the music, I'd rather listen to music of my choice while playing.) Anything that doesn't add to the game's strategic aspects is essentially useless to me. So I wouldn't really care if we had Civ 1 graphics, or Civ 3, or whatever.

Since downloading Warpstorm's Play the World graphics for my Civ3 game, I now care a lot more about graphics.

I only really care for the Modern Ages music; the others are fine for me.

 

[JonathanValjean]

If gameplay is in place FIRST, then I say add as many beautiful graphics as possible. I was and continue to be very satisfied with the new graphics engine in Civ 3. I can't imagine going back to the early 90s graphics technology. I have to agree, however, that those Atari games surely were addictive, simple graphics or not. It was all about gameplay back then, which, in my opinion, is what makes the entire Civilization trilogy so exceptional today.