Civ4 Col: Broken download database links, please help to re-upload

The_J

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I forgot :blush:.

Passed on your thanks and he kindly offered to send other Civ4Col mods too if we need them so I asked him for a list. They're not in the missing list so maybe these are already on CFC and still working fine?
  • Slavery Market
  • Triangle Trade
  • jTradeRoutes
  • Origins
  • Return Home
  • Trail 1.2
  • Livestock Breeding
  • civ4col_unit_new_orders_mod_v0_1_for_patch_1_01f

If you could please ask for the 2, I'd be grateful :hatsoff:.
 

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Hi mate, looks like the same forum upgrade broken tables & links issue has messed up your original top post here too.

Oh and for anyone passing by wanting to help I should post a copy below of the Atomic Gamer backup mod rescue trick I've posted over in the Civ4 and Civ3 restoration threads. I'll have a go at it myself and rescue as many Civ4Col mods as I can probably early next year as I really want to finish up releasing my Civ2 mods before getting back into more preservation work.



Thanks to help from Stromling over on the Civ4 forums where The_J is also pushing some great preservation work I have finally figured out the system used by the old Atomic Gamer file hosts used by many Civ3 modders and figured I'd post a copy of it here for the Civ3 community too!

I've got a bunch of lost Civ 3 and 4 scenarios that were not part of the Atomic Gamer CFC backup due to being personal uploads on their site instead.. I and others have been trying to figure out how to search for download codes in the MASSIVE backup collection for years and hadn't had any luck!
https://archive.org/details/atomicgamer

The codes in the archive names and the download codes were 2 different things and I couldn't work out a connection as I had not realised that the searchable codes on the archives were actually shortened reversed dates!

Stromling already explained this to me over PM but I'll stick these step by step examples here for others so we can spread the word and solve a lot of problems across this site (mostly in the civ3 & 4 forums). Basically if we put any broken atomic gamer download into web archive we can hopefully see the extra info we need..

Example 1 - the missing Civ4 Age of Discovery Mod (no not Dale's, this is another one) I was trying to find yesterday:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/age-of-discovery.415830/
I put it's dead download into webarchive and find this backup:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130531074316/http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/90780/age-of-discovery
From this link I can see the download code of 90780 and the page tells me the file name, it's size, and the date it was uploaded to Atomic gamer:
AgeOfDiscovery.7z - 32.7 MB - 03/19/2011 (19/03/2011 outside of America)
That date means it should be in the 110319 archive or archive days close to that. So I search for that number in the collection and up it comes:
https://archive.org/details/AtomicGamer_110319
I click show all files:
https://archive.org/download/AtomicGamer_110319
I click view contents on the main tar file:
https://ia801306.us.archive.org/vie...ems/AtomicGamer_110319/AtomicGamer_110319.tar
And bingo.. there's a archive with the download code 90780 and it's a similar size! :) Filename is not there sadly so ya gotta download, check if its the right file and then rename to it's old name.

Example 2 - the missing Civ 3 Star Trek mod bonus music files I've been trying to find for 2 friggin years (link briefly mentioned in the description text)
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/star-trek-mod-v-0-9-0-beta-7z.16249/
I put it's dead download link into webarchive and it FAILED:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.atomicgamer.com/file.php?id=86966
However I can see the failed link is in an old format (file php id) compared to the discovery one above (files/xxxxx/) which had the download code in some slashes, so I try the 86966 code in that format with a * on the end which will show all pages listed under that download code that were hopefully backed up.
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/86966/*
Bingo!
https://web.archive.org/web/20120617234339/http://www.atomicgamer.com:80/files/86966/mussfx_civ3stm
From this link I can see the download code of 86966 and the page tells me the file name, it's size, and the date it was uploaded to Atomic gamer:
Sounds.zip - 724.3 MB - 07/03/2010 (03/07/2010 outside of America)
That date means it should be in the 100703 archive or archive days close to that. So I search for that number in the collection and up it comes:
https://archive.org/details/AtomicGamer_100703
I click show all files:
https://archive.org/download/AtomicGamer_100703
I click view contents on the main tar file:
https://ia801300.us.archive.org/vie...ems/AtomicGamer_100703/AtomicGamer_100703.tar
And bingo.. there's a archive with the download code 86966 and it's a similar size! :) Filename is not there sadly so ya gotta download, check if its the right file and then rename to it's old name.

Sometimes there won't be a web archive backup of the old atomic gamer download page but as you can see above it could just be a matter of the old format atomic download link needing to be adjusted to their final one, and if all that fails then Stromling points out that you can usually work out the date of upload by the day it was posted on the CFC forums, sometimes file names and sizes are mentioned in the posts too.

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Blake00

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Great work @Blake00 .

How is that, can you open a tar file on a windows PC?
Asking because I'd directly like to replace the link, but maybe it's necessary to re-pack and re-upload.

7zip opens tar files I think, however that's not quite what I was doing above as those tar links aren't downloads and are actually links to a built-in tar file viewer on archive org. You don't want to download the entire tar file as its full of other people's stuff and can be gigs in size (depending on how busy that day was on Atmoic). By using the archive org tar file viewer you can see the individual files inside, find the download code your looking for and just download that file from inside the tar without ever having to get the whole tar file thankfully.

However yes the download you want still has weird name (eg userUploaded.86966) and thats exactly how it looks when it's downloaded to your pc meaning it needs to be renamed to it's original file name (eg AgeOfDiscovery.7z) to be opened. Which means it's not the best option for replacing links with (unless instructions are put on the download page telling people they need to rename the file to open). So yes re-packing and re-uploading is probably going to be required for anything found in the backups.
 
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