Civilization PBEM???

[Hommer]

Do you think we not discover Aqueduct?..

When we will raze and destroy others two or three thousands of people, we just will load it to the ships and smash your empire that prefers to breed people and to pay taxes.

Don't forget, we are attacked from the three directions. However one direction (GoldenFlowers) can be considered as rating-increasing bonus but it needs some soldiers for it.

You are completely wrong when you think the people masses are unimportant for the war. At least now two stone wariors can defeat one bronze warrior but they are much more cheaper to produce and in support. And these people gain military experience that can be very critical. For you.

 

[Hommer]

Attention:
The game processing in all E-CIV games is paused until 11th August.

 

[Hoh]

Meanwhile, we are trying to come out with some RPG element. I am gathering 3-turn-old reports from Mid02 game, and there will be prepared several articles about what is going on in there (I am not participating, so I may be considered to be neutral). Hope we will find translators, so that result can be accessed not only by Russian speakers.

 

[Hommer]

Turn processing is not contunued yet. Game server room is under repair.

 

[Hommer]

Yesterday all of the E-CIV games was continued.

 

[Hommer]

KA6AHbI Team forever! PH, do you want to surrender?..

GoldenFlowers have catched good apercote this turn

The only problem is KPAIHA. But let's remember the match "Lokomotive M - Shaktar D"... The pre-result of 0:1 was not enough to win.

 

[Hommer]

Lazy2 game is near start. It is based on NEWEST Pro-server (potentially for Pro6 game, however Pro5 is not started yet).

One turn per week. If you have at least little e-civ experiance, you can try to subscribe.

 

[Hoh]

After a pleasant vacation I am back. Mike did a great job substituting yours truly (I am still ready to give my nation to him till the end of game, but he is busy). Last turn all the invaders were thrown back into sea and PH are thinking about some fresh bacon and turtle meat for dinner.

I still think that there is a problem - ships are too expensive and complicated. Look, Harganny have a huge handicap in development, and what do they bring? An army, that is good for guerilla war only (huge, angy Godzilla, I have to admit). Ships should be made much easy to create and support in the future.

 

[Hommer]

No, I don't think so. Harganny are just economist, not fighters. I think even our team can overcome Zergs if we stop wars with you, KPAIHA and PH's.

They are not prepared for war completely.

Ships are cheap enough to create SmallGalley in SmallShipyard in two turns. Clipper in Middle for 3 turns.

 

[muxec]

Hmm... i tried to play this and you, Hommer, know my opinion from pbem.h1.ru/forums. This game looks full of boring micromanagements. Also i see that in free parties everybody start in other time and parties where players start at the same time are payware...
Hommer, can you explain me why e-civ is better than militarizm?
Is it such a thing like friendly fire accidents in it? Can units of alied state enter your town?

 

[Hommer]

1) Micromanagement often is not boring. If you like economical games, you will love it.
2) Fully free parties are rare. But for new players two games (training Wait and first Nov game for this player) are free.
3) I don't like simple games. I want to see many characteristics of cities, units etc. And certainly I love global strategy games (like Civ, MOO, Stars! etc), when you have total control of all aspects of empire (race).
4) Friendly fire cannot be; units in Peace-Ally state don't fight.
5) Allied unit can enter town and will protect it. In the Team and latest Pro servers allied units are joined for defending armies of city owner (e.g. auto-generated Militia will support allied unit of other empire in combat.

E-Civ is damn complex. But for hardcore players it is great.

 

[muxec]

Lets open a new thread to discuss what's the best Russian civ-like PBeM. Anyway, i think that Russian PBEM must be free. And source of server maintaince is banners and ads of other type.

Is there mines in the games (not those mines that are source of resources, but mines that explode)?
Do units in e-civ have special bonuses against each of other unit types?
Hmm... Does the game support hot seat mode?
Does the game installation package include all graphics and data of the game?
Is there server software available for download?

BTW both e-civ and militarizm are Ukrainian.

BTW2, we have the same Cossak on our avatars

 

[Hommer]

Explosive Mines not presented, sorry. Possible we can introduce it in future, but now the history of the world is "finished" at the steam era. No airplanes, helicopters etc.

The game support only PBEM mode.

Game graphics, except of very basic, is transferred in game reports. So different games can use different graphics.

Server can be downloaded, but only very ancient version, full of bugs. The supported version of e-civ server is commercial.

E-civ is Ukrainian because server is located in Kharkov, but game have been developed by Ural's programmers (Rash Izmailov, from Ekaterinburg).

i think that Russian PBEM must be free

I'm agreed with you but I see that the support of game server is very annoying process. The small financial support helps GM to continue the hard work and don't leave such great project.

 

[muxec]

When i started noobic e-civ game and saw cannon on the neghbour island when i did not discover even bronzeworking I stoped playing.



BTW my Militarizm server is fully operational now. Also it has a status of official site of English version.
One of the greatest advantages of militarizm is parties with special sheldues, for example 3 turns per hour party that lasts only few days.
Militarizm will soon face a new degree of customization. Game formulas will be moved to special open-coded DLL.

 

[Hommer]

Training Wait2 game is continious game that never ends. So one players are very advanced at the same time when new players are just entering the game.

For evading the conflicts between non-equal players the game map is archipelago and sea vessels are prohibited. So don't worry about cannons.

 

[muxec]

Yes, Wait2... No ships is also very bad. It'd be better if they do like in galaxy-People post their request and get answer in about a month.

I pump your thread, why can't you bump mine?

 

[Hommer]

Ships are too big concept for training game.

About your tread - Ok, I'll try.

 

[muxec]

The mayor problem with e-civ is HotSeat. If i had hotseat in the game I would pla game with myself and understand something. But with PBeM only and faked beginners' party i do not really want to play. Maybe it'd be better if parties with English language will be payware and Russian version will be free. Not because i'm rascist and hate Americans, just because English speakers are generally rich.

 

[Hommer]

GameMasters are quite busy people and usually don't support players community. Players set up sites and make documentation of game by yourself (because of the main source of information in e-civ is e-mail subscription e-civ-r@yahoogroups.com.

Because of majority of players are russian-languaged, the game resources are in russian. Almost no documentation in English make game painful for foreign players.

However I have one Spanish players in my team in current Team2 game.

 

[Hoh]

Hommer,

I must admit, I feel myself PISSED OFF!!! Your assault at Nevrema has shown that you think that I've suffered a lobotomy operation.