civs u want added

[Vietcong]

i rather have it hear, so hopefully the ppl makeing the expansion will get some ideas
i dont want moders to cus well... ther civ mods SUCK!
the units are just other units with a new name.. the leaders... thay look worse then leaders from civ 3.. come on u mod makers, do something worth noteing plz! and maby take a class so u can learn to acaly make some what decent leader heads.
wirh the ones out ther, ther so ugly, if i wanted to make one i might as well poop, take a pic of it and pop it in ther as a leader head. and u choldnt tell the difrents.

 

[Meffy]

When thinking about modding, why restrict ourselves to major civs? Playing "what if" is grand stuff too. Hence my Ruritania suggestion, and several mentioned by other posters. I'd rather just go ahead and wing it than worry about rationalizing why a civ is worthy of playing in Civ.

If I knew more about comic novelist Leonard Wibberly's "Duchy of Grand Fenwick" (The Mouse that Roared, etc.) I might consider it a candidate for modding in... hmm... Ruler: Duchess Gloriana XII, played by Peter Sellers... no attributes at all... unique unit: Peter Sellers.

 

[MetHimPikeHoses]

Vikings: the Berserker UU was nice for destroying your neighbors quickly and bloodily

Maya or another Native American Civ: could give bonuses for agriculture, trade-- and it was a nice touch in the Mesamerica maps in C3 to do the human sacrifice for culture, no matter how distasteful it was...

Pacific Islanders: the original great navigators

 

[TylerDurdon]

I don't think vikings should be included. They were barbarians with no organized form of government or culture. I think the mesopotamian civs lost out on civ 4.

Totally false.... its like saying that ALL those who we're not Romans where barbarians.... Viking (scandinavians) had Kings, severals regional king for the most part of their history.... but king nevertheless. As soon as the Viking got unified under 1 king... they smashed themself on the English probably over confident!!!! They were religious people too, a lot of mythological stuff came from them (odin for example was one of the their god) They WERE a Civilization no doubt... they establish trade routes all over europe, building up old Russia before it was Russian and done a lot of war... makes a lot of considered powerfull civilization (french was one) pay them tribute. Some even consider them as the ones whos REALLY discover America in 1000ad... (settlements in Labrador shows that). The only matter is their length, they last for less than 300 years if i'm not mistaken... which I could be!!! But with that in mind the Mongols civilization who spead as the biggest in history didnt last more than 2 generations andt didnt make the 300 years Vikings have done!!!

plus gamewise... I loved the Berserker in Civ III and miss them very much!!!! I miss the Irish for their aggresiveness and the Dutch even though I dont remember playing them once... Zulu can make it back too!!! well I want back the all the old ones... but I'm pretty convince they will be back anyway!!!!

 

[Koelle]

I've heard it said, which is to say I'm not 100% it's true, that there are only two civilizations on the planet that can claim cultural continuity through all of recorded history, Vietnam and Ireland (reference: A Bright and Shining Lie). While both cultures have had their fair share of foreign invaders neither culture has lost their indentity and in time has been able to repel the invaders. If you think the U.S. has been the worst invader ever to pay a visit, you'd be wrong cause China tried multiple times over the course of several millenia to bring the Vietnamese to heel but never did.
Leader: Ho Chi Minh
Traits: Industrial & Organised
UU: Vietcong (replaces infantry) -1 power, Woodsman II, no support cost outside of cultural boundaries.

Vietnamese are masters of Arts of War. They should be Expansive/Agressive instead of Industrial. And their UU Veitcong would get +25% vs. Tank

 

[riot_girl]

I want to see some fantasy civs you know. The authrurians, king auther and all. Knight of the round tablet speical unit that sort of thing. And i think adding speical buildings would be super neat. But real civs id like to see the mexicans, tailand, and king tut added to the egyptains.

 

[RockStar-holic]

Vietnamese are masters of Arts of War. They should be Expansive/Agressive instead of Industrial. And their UU Veitcong would get +25% vs. Tank

Maybe, but they've got to have some jungle/forest stat in thier make-up. As for Expansive/Agressive that might have been a cultural trait of the past but Father Ho was definitly industrious and well organized. He shouldn't be agressive however because he approached the Eisenhower administration in 1954 (I believe) for assistance in repelling the French. Of course we said no, so the war was a last resort for Ho Chi Mihn; diplomacy before bullets doesn't bring to mind an agressive trait to me.
The real reson we'll probably never see a Vietnamese civ though is due to the small market share in Vietnam and the implications that it holds for the baby boomers. It would suck to get optics, cross the ocean, find the hated Vietnamese and suddenly get paralyzed by a flashback of being stuck in the jungle while the vietcong are shelling you into a fetal position (thumb sucking optional).

 

[Osymandias]

bavaria! i want bavaria!(well...actually i will start working on it today*g*) because its cool and its one of the oldest central european states! it exists roughly since 555 AD.....

 

[Manty]

The vikings did not only build up russia nor establish a few sites they founded it, eastern russia or rus as they named their new colony can attribute their existence and character to the vikings. they also launched attacks on constantinople, arguably the most powerful force in the western world at the time, saw them as such a treat they sign a treaty employing the vikings as mercenaries. they were also responsible for founding many cities in ireland and england and established trade routes as well as markets that are still in use today. in france they evolved into the normans who of course then invaded england changing the face of england forever as well as conquering the most conquered island in western history-sicily, pushing out the arab invaders, they continued to rule for many centuries and the age of the norman rule in sicily is considered their golden age. The Vikings have influence the shape of europe, the language of the world (english) and the trade routes of europe, I wouldn’t just label them as barbarians

 

[Osymandias]

you are so what of right! and don't forget about the viking colonies in canada in the 11th and/or 12th century! i think they where in nova-scotia or new foundland, when i remember right.....
so....let's rename america to vinland!

i hope they will be in an official addon.

 

[Panda]

If you add Vietnam as a playable civ it's UU should be called 'Charlie'. It would replace Infantry and get a free Woodsman II promotion. Any time the American civ is at war with Vietnam their WW would skyrocket.

To balance this, America would get a new religious-agressive leader. Forgot his name, though.

 

[Covert22]

I don't think vikings should be included. They were barbarians with no organized form of government or culture. I think the mesopotamian civs lost out on civ 4.

obviously you know jack diddly about vikings.

 

[Roxinante]

I think you're all thinking in too small a time scale about Vietnam, and theres an unpleasant vein of cultural relativity thats running though the suggestions about Vietnam. The American War was a blip on their cultural radar - their civilization is far older than Western history portrays it. Posters have all been trying to portray the civilization from the perspective of "United States v. " - calling their special unit Charlie? What, you think they invented the irregular infantry? You think they called themselves Charlie? Thats American slang, Victor Charlie - from the phonetic alphabet NATO and the UN uses.
Suggestions that they be specifically opposed to the US shows a lack of understanding of history, and a lack of understanding of game ballance. What good is a bonus against the US if a game doesnt have the US in it? Nor were the Vietnamese destined to be the enemy of the US - in Ho Chi Min's speach declaring independence from the French, he quoted the American Declaration of Independence - it was the United States which decided to back the French instead (and look where that got us), and invent an 'incident' in the Tonkin Gulf. Nor was it any radical inprovement on strategy which led the country to defeat the US - the Vietnamese used exactly the same strategy to defeat the US that the Colonies used to defeat Great Britain. Washington lost numerous battles against the British, but managed to keep the war dragging on until public opinion in Great Britian weighted against the war, until the cost of the war became too much to justify its continunace, and until foreign aid leveled the battlefield.

 

[Halmboy]

For some reason i think I would be kinda funny to play as the soviet union dunno why but they would be forced to have all the communist civics LoL.

But one civ reason I really really really need is the viking(scandinavia) I would be really happy if they added that civ.
så snälla snälla Sid, lägg till Skandinavien. Jag kräver och behöver det

 

[SomethingWitty]

I know they weren't really into building cities, but I'd like to see some North American indians civs. I think there's room for good leaders, units, place names, etc.

I'd especially like to see some PNW indians. One could probably make some great leaderheads with those masks. And I'd like to see a Tlingit warrior as a UU. I'd do it myself if I knew how.

 

[SomethingWitty]

I don't think vikings should be included. They were barbarians with no organized form of government or culture. I think the mesopotamian civs lost out on civ 4.

Uh, well the vikings were more of an Unique Unit, if you will, of the Norsemen. And they lived under monarchies, so they'd have just as much of an organized government as the mesopotamians. Plenty of culture too. They sailed some of the most beautiful ships ever built.