Classic GOTM 32 Speculation Thread

[Hergrom]

Assuming we actually get a worker , I will start the worker mining the BG. I will move the settler SE and most likely settle there. Without the hills and moutains, this looks to be a low shield city. RowAndLive is most likely correct about the landmass form, so tightly spaced cites will be the plan. I will try for 3 and 6 rings if possible. May even have several 2 spaced cities for early production.

I will start with 3 jags, 2 for exploration and 1 for garrison, then settler. Depending on the size of the starting landmass, I may completely forgo a granary.

I am undecided on my victory goal. Probably conquest or 100k.

 

[klarius]

The problem with moving SE is that you have no RCP 3 city location to the north. Moving S looks better for the first ring. Shields should be enough for quite some time with the BGs.

 

[smackster]

There is something S-SW, but even after blowing it up I'm still not sure. I think it is the tip of another mountain.

Monarch game makes me think that I have to go Predator, although starting without a worker scares me and I might stay at open.

I've never won a culture victory, so 100k is my target.

 

[bradleyfeanor]

Originally posted by Alamo:

Question of the day: What civ traits can get a GA from Copernicus's Observatory?

 

[civ_steve]

Copernicus' Observatory starts a possible GA for Expansionistic civs.

Aztecs are Militaristic and Religious.

I'm rather tempted to do a 20K attempt (even if Kuningas has already declared that!), but who knows if bloodlust may take over the Aztec peoples!

 

[tigerpoo]

I'm going to try the culture thing too this time. Which is more possible, 100K or 20K I wonder? Wouldn't you have to be building cultural improvements constantly in all your cities to get to 100K, thus mkaing it impossible to gain any territory?

 

[Mistfit]

I've never won by culture so I'll be watching for your spoiler's on this game.

 

[Denniz]

Maybe cows to the west, sweetwater fish to the north, game to the south.
My first inclination was the same as yours, but you really cannot tell. Maybe one should play conquest class to get some more units to explore.

This is my 3rd GOTM. What is the likelyhood of those resources? What is the breakeven point on moving? I don't want to wander around and miss out on the early exspansion, either.

I probably should play conquest but I should be able to do better without that. I have a lot of bad habits (over-builders anonymous candidate here ) that would be there regardless of class.

 

[alamo]

It does look like a coast to the N. Getting a dense RCP will not be trivial.

My experience has been that river elbow tiles are NOT river tiles, so I would not move settler S. Checking the commerce on the tile is a great idea.

I certainly hope we get a worker on the nominal level.

Yep, Cops is an expansionist wonder - why not sci??? I can see astronomy being good for navigation, but you don't get the boats or explorers w/astronomy! I guess they had to balance out the wonder-traits numbers.

 

[thebrose]

I'm liking the spot to the SE as are others. I don't really concern myself with in RCP as it is too much computation/analysis. I get enough of that at work. There is still room after the move to build a coastal city a couple of tiles NW.

I just recently started a game with the Atzecs: Regent, Pangea, 5 Civs, trying to practice some early warmongering. Hopefully that will help here. The save should be up sometime late late tonight, right?

 

[alamo]

Here is what appeared from the fog in my seance. I'm clueless as to the red pixels.

 

[-0blivion-]

I think S - SW in the woods is dyes.

 

[Singularity]

I would not speculate any much before I know the minimap. It's certainly tempting to move the worker to the mounain two tiles east, while I move the settler SE. And then depending on what the worker see I will use the second move of my settler to go to the optimal spot for my capitol. That's also the general direction of the river, and it would make financial sence to explore there.

There is something in the tiles S SW of the settler, though I have no idea what it is(silks, game..etc).

 

[Mistfit]

Remember the teaser about there being Jungles we may not have the options that you all are talking about. The tile we see could be the only open tiles on the map.

 

[alamo]

I think S - SW in the woods is dyes.

Wow - how'd you see that?!

Oh yeah, those red pixies could be the bottom of a silk spool.

 

[Hergrom]

I'm going to try the culture thing too this time. Which is more possible, 100K or 20K I wonder? Wouldn't you have to be building cultural improvements constantly in all your cities to get to 100K, thus mkaing it impossible to gain any territory?

Good Question. On a standard map with 70% water, land is gonna be hard to come by. Thus, it might be difficult to get an early 100k victory, but at monarch, it is certainly doable. It also helps that we will be religious.

For 20k, Monarch level will allow you to keep even with the AI in tech, and since they won't have a huge production bonus over you, you will not get beat to as many wonders. OTOH, one of the goals for 20k is leader farming, and smaller land masses make it a bit harder to farm them.

IMO, I would probably say that 20k might be slightly easier than 100k in this game.

As for you second question: Based upon comments from some of the top players, it seems it is better to expand as quickly as possible to the domination limit, and then mass build culture buildings while cramming in as many cities as possible. Reason given is that you waste expansion time by building early culture, thus delaying later mass building.

Hope this helps!

 

[Hergrom]

The problem with moving SE is that you have no RCP 3 city location to the north. Moving S looks better for the first ring. Shields should be enough for quite some time with the BGs.

You are correct. But, we may not have an RCP 3 city in any direction. I'm planning on a small continent/island, so RCP may not be viable at all. So with that in mind, I'm just planning on the best starting position possible based upon what I know of the starting position right now. I'm perfectly willing to sacrifice an RCP 3 city to the north for a more productive Capital. Heck, I may go RCP 2 & 4 if the starting land mass is small enough .

 

[ainwood]

The no worker handicap has only ever been one game on predator! All players will get a worker; in fact conquest players get an extra one.

 

[Mistfit]

Is this being released on the 15th? What time? I'm EST.

 

[alamo]

No guarantee, but I think they're ready to go. It'll probably be late tonight.

That worker pip sure was blurry in that starting pic. It must have been saved w/low resolution.