C'mon Firaxis, Japan, Arabia and Spain only have one leader? The solution is a patch!

[LightSpectra]

However, there's an obvious problem with Phil / Ind. That combo of traits is quite overpowered since that would make said civilization a Great Person factory. In order to balance that, it should be assigned to a civilization with a quite crappy UB / UU. I think that Babylon would be a good fit.

Fits, too. Babylon had both the Hanging Gardens and the Tower of Babil. And Hammurabi had the Code, which is quite philosophical.

 

[Train]

I still vote for General Franco instead of Philip or Charles, he is a modern leader and leadered Spain in WWII/Cold War, so Civ IV will have one more WWII/Cold War period leader together with Roosevelt, Stalin, Churchill, De Gaulle and Mao (did I forget one?)...

 

[LightSpectra]

Except Franco was a dictator that's hated by everybody in Spain. The only good thing he brought was an increased economy.

If you're going to add the World War II leaders, go for Haile Selassie, Tojo and Mussolini. Hitler is banned in Germany, and Firaxis would hate to lose sales there, but you got everyone else.

 

[NikNak]

I don't know why anyone would answer this poll in the negative. We all want free stuff. However, the chance of getting free leaders for Civ outside of player made mods is pretty slim.

 

[bode404]

The solution is a mod!

Completely agree.

 

[Nordiska]

I second Germany getting a 3rd leader.

 

[LightSpectra]

Germany has three leaders. Only it's split into two civilizations.

 

[Fox Mccloud]

C'mon Firaxis, Japan, Arabia and Spain only have one leader? The solution is a patch!

Yes! Someone actually mentioned Arabia. The Arabs deserve a second leader then anyone else, imho but most people only mention Spain and Japan.

I voted yes, by the way.

 

[scooter]

I'm surprised they didn't put in Pro/Org instead of Fin/Org or Agg/Char, since it isn't a brutally powerful combination.

I'm pretty sure they didn't put that combo in because it was contradictory. Protective pushes towards a defensive turtling strategy, and Organized towards a warmongering/expansionist strategy.

 

[Zoolooman]

I'm pretty sure they didn't put that combo in because it was contradictory. Protective pushes towards a defensive turtling strategy, and Organized towards a warmongering/expansionist strategy.

Fair enough, but Fin/Org is incredibly powerful, and Agg/Char was the "dream combination" everyone talked about when Warlords was released. I think adding them both was something of a mistake, but I'm glad that Agg/Char was given to a Civ with a middling UU and UB. Fin/Org, on the other hand, was given to Persia, and they have a top tier UU. :/ It'll be like playing with vanilla Washington all over again, except even more broken.

 

[Mirrorsword]

from what I've seen, most civ patches only tweak some values or fix bugs I can't remember a single one adding new content. additionally it would be practically impossible for fraxis to release new leaders in a patch. choosing the traits and stats of the leader would be easy, but creating a 3d animated leader head is the kind of thing that would have to be a planned feature and not a quick fix.
however it is a good idea for a mod

 

[Tee Kay]

Yes. Please? I'll be very grateful, not to mention the other 57 people who voted yes.

Leaders for Japan, Arabia, maybe Spain. A third leader for China and India would be awesome.

 

[scooter]

Fair enough, but Fin/Org is incredibly powerful, and Agg/Char was the "dream combination" everyone talked about when Warlords was released. I think adding them both was something of a mistake, but I'm glad that Agg/Char was given to a Civ with a middling UU and UB. Fin/Org, on the other hand, was given to Persia, and they have a top tier UU. :/ It'll be like playing with vanilla Washington all over again, except even more broken.

I always felt Fin/Org was a bit overrated, since Organized is only useful on higher difficulty levels and/or warmongering, and Fin is usually only useful in builder mode, they're kinda contradictory. Fin/Phi or Agg/Org or Cha/Org would all be stronger than Fin/Org because they're synergetic IMO.

 

[Nerowannabe]

There needs to be one for the aztecs!

 

[Gumbolt]

Not sure why you all want another leader to play for these 3 civs.

Firaxis have made a final patch and they wont add any more to this game now. Besides mods can be used for this anyway.

I think most matches of civ traits that Firaxis wanted to use they have. Same goes for UU and UB. More would just dilute what the current mix of civs already offer.

I think its coming to the point where you just want to add more leaders for the sake of it.

 

[Dark_Avenger]

Totally agree.
A patch for that should be made!

 

[Jewman]

arabia has a protective leader
and japan haas protective leader
i will never play with those civs until they get a second non-protective leader.
spain.... i hate that woman, definitely need a new leader there.

 

[Bigfoot3814]

China should get Chaing Kai Shek.
Japan should get Meiji.
Russia should not get any new leaders until everyone else has four, or Gorbechev, if The USA gets Kennedy.

 

[Hasuike]

I can't think of anybody for Japan because of the cultural taboo of having Emperor Meiji.

What is the cultural taboo for Meiji? I wasn't aware of any. On the original topic, I have long wanted a better leader for Japan in terms of traits since I hate Toku's. I was disappointed that they didn't add another leader for Japan in BTS since I've always wanted to play them with better traits to make up for the UB I'm not a big fan of.

I don't really like either protective or aggressive that much and I always figured that something along the lines of imperialistic, financial, or organized (like in vanilla for toku) made more sense for Meiji.

This is all probably wishful thinking that they will add more leaders to this game but I can always dream I guess. Is it even possible to patch in new leaders anyways (I'm not a computer person so I wouldn't know)?

 

[The Almighty dF]

I'd love to see a mini-expansion that just adds leaders to existing civs.

Please, Firaxis... give Egypt a philosophical leader? For me?

...And maybe a financial leader for America? >.> I don't wanna have to master the specialist economy. ;_;

Maybe a Roman and a Chinese leader don't suck? As I've said elsewhere I'd love a Chinese leader from pre-unification.