Code of Laws Change: Judical Powers verson II

Do you like this change to the Code of Laws?

  • YES

    Votes: 4 57.1%
  • NO

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • ABSTIN

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .

Emp.Napoleon

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Do you accsept this new and improved admendment to the code of laws:
Article F
The Judicial Council will be formed of the Justice of the Court of
Fanatica. He shall handle all judicial matters of the county,
including interpretation of the Constitution, laws, and Public Investigations
§1. No citizen shall hold a Consul position in conjunction with the
position of Justice of the Court.
§2. The Justice of the Court may delegate judicial powers as the Justice
see fit by creating and appointing citizens to Offices.
§3. The Justice of the Court will be responsible for the final ruling of a
Public Investigation, including the punishment;
a. In order to ensure the accused a fair trial, the Justice will give any
party enough time to respond on the charges. Both the accuser and
the accused shall receive prominent speaking time.
b. If the Justice of the Court believes that the Public Investigation has
no merit the Justice is given the right to decide not to conduct a
Public Investigation.
c. The Justice of the Court will be ultimately independent and impartial,
if the situation occurs where the Justice can't act completely
independent, the Justice can, in accordance with §2 of this article,
delegate his power on a specific Public Investigation to someone else.
§4. Interpretation of laws shall be conducted by the Justice of the Court by
Judicial Reviews; when requested by a citizen, the Chief Justice is tasked
with answering the question, on the basis of the Constitution.

3 days
 
now you have to give the abstract
 
I believe this ammendement should spell out punishment. I am not favourable towards the idea of giving the Justice a blank cheque.
 
Abstract Please
 
Emp.Napoleon said:
Well then we should elect a good person to the post.

That is your reply to everything. The fact remains that humans are imperfect. Plain and simple. Even the justice will have his personal bias. Thats why it is our jobs to create a solid constitution so that the Justice knows how to punish people and we don't have to worry about Rogue justices with too much power.
 
You never gave the abstract, so I believe this was not a valid poll.

EDIT: Therefore , Cheetah, please renege.
 
At least I can say I did my civic duty...I voted :)
 
The constitution has 3 requirements to change the Code of Laws:
1. The poll must be open for 48 hours. - Checked, the poll were open for 72 hours.
2. A majority must vote to change the laws. - Checked, 4 for, 3 against.
3. The poll must recieve a number of votes equal to or greater than half of the active Assembly. - Checked, the active Assembly is currently 13.6, which means the poll needed at least 7 votes, which it got.

So unless the Judge has some reason to stop this, I'm editing the Code of Laws. The measure has passed.

Edit:

No, it has not.

Emp: You have stated that it was an amendment to the Code of Laws. But to me the text seems like an amendment to the constitution.

An amendment to the Constitution requires a majority of the active Assembly. With a current active Assembly of 13.8, it means that you would need at least 7 yes votes.
 
True, Cheetah.
We need to discuss this possible amendment further, in order to get more people enthusiastic about it. There are more than 7 people active, so they should vote the next time we vote on it.

And for Emp: maybe it's a good idea to post a request to poll in the Court thread, so that the Judge can post the poll. That way the judge is responsible for making mistakes in typing the amendment, while now no-one is.
 
Or perhaps EMP could compromise to make this more acceptable to a broader range of people?
 
Cheetah said:
Emp: You have stated that it was an amendment to the Code of Laws. But to me the text seems like an amendment to the constitution.

I worded it however I felt is was easyer to say, :p there are no rules on how it must be worded.

The rules say that you need for a majority of the active assembaly to vote, it does not say they have to vote yes.

Article L
A majority of the votes in a poll lasting minimum 48 hours is required
to amend the Code of Laws.
§1. The poll must also recieve a number of votes equal to or
greater than half of the active Assembly.

gert-janl said:
True, Cheetah.
We need to discuss this possible amendment further, in order to get more people enthusiastic about it. There are more than 7 people active, so they should vote the next time we vote on it.

We did discuss it, in another thread. If people choose not to participate, their loss.
 
No, it didn't pass.
 
10 characters my ass.
An amendment to the Constitution requires a majority of the active Assembly. With a current active Assembly of 13.8, it means that you would need at least 7 yes votes.
 
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