Cold War Project

[academia]

First of all, let me tell you that i´m going to suspend my korean war project. You know, it seems that it will end in another “2 players only” game; similar to the Falklands War. Something like North Korea (plus chinese/russian aid) vs. US/South Korea
I´m keen on something different; a huge multiplayer scenario.

To be honest, I haven´t seen a great worldwide Cold War scenario in the web… so, this idea came up to my mind.
What about a Cold War scenario in a Gigamap? It could start in the 1960s...

What I´m going to say now will sound weird sometimes, maybe too diffcult; and it will obviously require hard working-people.
Yes, I´m not planning to make it alone!!! This will be a joint project.
I need volunteers. I need you to help me!! Anyone!! And when I say help, i´m serious. This scenario will demand many hours of hard work; it´s not an easy shot. Ok?

 

[academia]

General Settings:

1) I´d like to start around mid-1960s.

2) It will be a “What If” scenario. By this, i mean that it won´t follow pre-designed patterns. No events like: 1973: X revolution in X country. Or 1977: usa invasion to Z country.

3) Political and military decisions will rely on human players. As USA: You don´t want to intervene in Vietnam and let it fall to the soviets? No problem. It´s up to you. Russia: USA invades Cuba and you want to counterattack invading Germany? You can do it. No historical ties.

4) It will cover a period from 1960 to 1990, or even more. I haven´t made a decision yet. And yes, it´ll include multiple rules/units/events file.

5) I´m going to use a Gigamap scenario

 

[academia]

Countries:
This is a draft list of the powers that may intervene in the scenario. Suggestions, please.

1) USSR (yes)
2) China (yes)
3) USA (yes)
4) NATO?
5) European Union?
6) Commonwealth?
7) Non-alligned countries?
8) UN?
9) Third World countries?
10) Arab League?
11) Warsaw Pact?
12) Soviet Allies?
13) Western World Allies?

 

[academia]

Joint project:
I´ll need your help in different areas. This maybe some of them:

1) Someone should search information about population / demographics / infraestructure of the most relevant countries

2) Military power information. Aircrafts, tanks, ships, missiles. Orders of battle (if possible)

3) Icons: I´ve huge galleries of units/terrains/city improvements.
- someone should take care of terrains (experiment, mix)
- units: select the more suitable for each decade
- city icons/wonders of the world: the most suitable

4) Tech Tree: create a new one; or redesign others

5) Eventually, we´ll have to make tests of battles, playability and other stuff.


Mmm… no more today. I hope this will catch your attention…

 

[academia]

Suggestions, advices, comments, critics... all of them are welcome!!!

 

[Cleveland]

Will it be on FW, ToT or some else? Hope FW..

 

[Darius]

Sounds big; I thought you were "sick of all this creation".

I was actually going to suggest a gigamap, but I'm glad to see you're going to use one. First off I'd like to suggest a different gigamap from Imp1870; it's the one Pap used but I fixed all the rice paddies, etc. for a scenario of my own:

 

[Darius]

Anyway I don't know much about the weaponry etc., but I could get almost all of the demographic stuff done for you, or even the map itself. On that save I gave you all the positions of cities are marked either by a city or an engineer (I reached the city limit early)

 

[PinkyGen]

I'm going away for Fall Break now, and when I get back I'll have Spanish work and then go on another trip to a Model UN conference, so I won't have much time to research. I can later post at least the knowledge I do know about hardware. (like Phantoms for example.)

 

[academia]

Cleveland:
Relax FW!!!!

Darius:
Well, i´m not sick... i needed to change the topic
In reference to the map: thanx for your help but i already have one.

Pinkygen:
Ok. post anything

Please guys, help me with the civs.
I gave you a list of the major powers. Choose 7.

 

[Leglaen]

Originally posted by academia
Countries:
This is a draft list of the powers that may intervene in the scenario. Suggestions, please.

1) USSR (yes)
2) China (yes)
3) USA (yes)
4) NATO?
5) European Union?
6) Commonwealth?
7) Non-alligned countries?
8) UN?
9) Third World countries?
10) Arab League?
11) Warsaw Pact?
12) Soviet Allies?
13) Western World Allies?

#s 1(includes 11/12),2,3,4,7,10,14(Israel)

 

[mordhiem]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Why do more qualified people always steal my ideas .

I've already mostly planned my Gigamap cold war scen, now just need to find unit pics and actually make the damn thing...

Before you ask, I'm not reallty intrested in a collaboration of any kind. I need to prove to myelf that I CAN produce a scenario on my own.

 

[Leglaen]

A good place to find oob's would be the game "The Operational Art of War, Volume II".

 

[EmuGod]

Use the alternate ww79 as a guide if you like. I'd be glad to help you out if I can. Just remember not to put Spain in NATO, as she was still under Caudillo Franco's Fascist government

 

[EmuGod]

If it's before 1978, you could make a SEATO civilization to represent the SEATO countries or just make one big ass NATO-SEATO civ. BTW, can you please make it compatible with FW?

 

[Ohwell]

I like your Falklands War scenario, I am looking forward to this one!

About the civs: Heres my suggestions...

1. USA/Israel
2. NATO
3. USSR
4. Arabs
5. China
6. Unnaligned
7. Unnaligned 2 (There's alot of unnaligned!)

 

[PinkyGen]

Just off the top of my head, here is what I think might be the hardware countries use.

USA:
Atlas/Titan nuclear missiles.
B-52 Bombers.
Phantom fighter craft.
Cruisers, destroyers, nuclear carriers (Enterprise).
M-60 and M-48 tanks.
M-113 infantry vehicles.
1st generation nuclear submarines, and ballistic submarines.

USSR:
Mig-21's and 23's.

I have to go for now, post more later.

 

[Darius]

Pretty much the same here:

1. USA/Israel/South Korea
2. NATO
3. China
4. USSR/Warsaw Pact Members/Cuba
5. Muslims*
6. Latin America
7. All other unaligned

* I like this better than an "Arab" civ since an Arab civ wouldn't logically include central Asia, Indonesia, etc. A justification for lumping them all together is that when one muslim country is attacked, fellow mujahedin from all around the world journey to fight with them. This was the case in 1980's Afghanistan, not to mention right now, as even suburban white Americans gone around the world to join Jihad.

In reference to the map: thanx for your help but i already have one.

Tell me you're not using the Imp1870 one.

 

[Ohwell]

Ah, I forgot about Latin america

 

[academia]

Let´s answer:
Leglaen:

1(includes 11/12),2,3,4,7,10,14(Israel)

Israel???? No way. I won´t waste one civ slot in one small country.

mordhiem:
Sorry I didn´t know that.

Why do more qualified people always steal my ideas

More qualified I´ve already done only one scenario!!! (and it´s not ready. I need more tests!!)

EmuGod:
Great. First of all, i´d like to find military information. Maybe a chronology of tanks, ships. orders of battle. could you find something like that?

If it's before 1978, you could make a SEATO civilization to represent the SEATO countries or just make one big ass NATO-SEATO civ. BTW, can you please make it compatible with FW?

sorry, but what´s SEATO? i don´t know the translation in spanish.
Yes, it´ll be compatible with FW.

Ohwell:

I like your Falklands War scenario, I am looking forward to this one!

Thanx Anyway, i need to fix a few problems.

PinkyGen:
Thanx for the list. post more!!!

Darius:

6. Latin America

Latin America alone? Really? try to convince me

Tell me you're not using the Imp1870 one.

Why? you don´t like it?
Anyway, it´s a "Fight for Freedom" scenario map. Have you heard of this one?