Discussion in 'Civ5 - New Civilizations' started by TPangolin, Oct 23, 2013.
But the Antilles is usually regarded as part of North America, not South...
I thought I'd share something that came up in a conversation Pang and I had about a South American Civ. Is it the South American Civ? You'll have to wait and see, I guess.
Food for thought.
Kingdom of [REDACTED]
Unique Ability: [REDACTED] - While your Empire has only one [REDACTED], all specialists generate [REDACTED] for each empty [REDACTED].
Unique Unit: [REDACTED] ([REDACTED])- While fortified in a City, the Capital gains [REDACTED].
Unique Building: [REDACTED] (Garden) - Requires [REDACTED] instead of Freshwater. Has a slot for a [REDACTED], only one of which can be filled at a time and which generates [REDACTED].
There's a couple typos in Poundmaker's diplo text. It says 'every siece of land' instead of 'every piece' and 'we will see how you faire' instead of 'how you fare.'
Kingdom, eh? So it's pre-colonial, because in the history of Latin America itself there were only two kingdoms post-colonial, Brazil's (technically an Empire) and Mexico's (again technically an empire).
Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia ?
My money is on either the Selknam or Yaghan of Tierra del Fuego.
The Yaghan, no, The Selknam... no...
I'd go with Chimor
Were there any kingdoms in colonial or pre-colonial United States? It just occurred to me that the "South American" civ could be a civ in the "south" of "America." But all I can think of are Native American tribes (who wouldn't call themselves a kingdom) and the Spanish colonies in Florida, Texas, etc.
The Spanish colonies (at least the Viceroyalties of New Spain and Peru) have already been claimed by Age of Imperialism. I think.
I appreciate that you're starting to think counter-intuitively. It's not the right path, but you'll need that sort of thinking to solve this mystery (or should it be "these mysteries"?).
It's plural, it's in SA, it's Colonial, and it hasn't been claimed yet.
Considering it's a Kingdom, we have to check which Kingdoms that were absorved by the Incas aren't claimed yet, and then we can make an educated guess on it.
I can with almost 100% certainty say that it's not the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia..
We also need to look outside the box. And we're spending too much time thinking about what it is and not enough time thinking about what it isn't.
Yeah, I've got nothing left in the tank. my brain has run dry.
Chachapoya or Tairona
I'm guessing that the UA is only effective whilst the civ only has one city. Perhaps specialist generate additional yields for every tile not used by a worker?
Perhaps that unique Garden requires saltwater instead of freshwater, meaning you could just build it directly next to the ocean to fulfil it's requirements.
These are all just assumptions and guesses that are probably grievously incorrect.
Judging from the hints we have to guess what this mystery civ ISN'T. So, is it perhaps the Kingdom of Cusco? A self-sufficient state, which is NOT YET the Inka Empire
Also, it has to do something with colonialism, and what the Inkas of Cusco did to their neighbours is what I'd call colonization
Could it be the Kingdom of Quito? I did a quick search for pre-Colombian South American cultures on Wikipedia and Quito was the only one referred to as a kingdom on the list.
They were conquered by the Spanish, which means they're certainly viable as a Colonialist Legacies civ. (Although they were integrated into the Incan Empire, they still managed to retain their cultural identity.)
I'm gonna take a crack at the guessing and say it's the runaway slave Kingdom of Palmares.
Truth be told it's a lot closer to "Encampment", and not Kingdom.
A pretty damn big encampment if you ask me...
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