Kwik E Mart
Chieftain
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- Jan 26, 2010
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...for annexed cities...is there plans to fix this soon? if so, anyone have an ETA?
Why would settled cities cause more unhappiness than occupied ones? It doesn't make any sense and narrows optimal strategies to... well, basically just one.Really not seeing the negative point here.![]()
I don't see how this creates an "optimal" strategy.
for like cities
And it benefits you...you get the extra +3 happiness and get rid of occupied unhappiness but at the cost of higher social policies etc. Bonus, but with a negative effect. A city that's worth annexing isn't going to be one of the teeny population ones so you're going to spend a few turns with a hefty unhappiness penalty anyway.
Sounds fair enough to me.
Really not seeing the negative point here.![]()
So, so bad they haven't fixed this yet. This one is severe enough (and easy to fix) that it should have been hotfixed months ago.
Tabarnak is hopefully wrong - I certainly don't hope they've decided to turn a bug into an undocumented feature, that really would be a new low. If they really wanted to let it stay how it currently is they'd need to update the civilopedia to list courthouse as providing +3 happy. But that won't happen, because it is a bug...
Well, as the overlord I want to crush the spirits of my own citizens to. Why would I care about them? It cannot hurt my reputation.Because you have crushed their spirits and don't care about their happiness. Therefore, as the overlord of your empire you basically just presume they're happy.
Why do you do this? Because if they complain you take them to the courthouse and imprison the dissenters.
Therefore, Courthouse creates happiness by eliminating unhappiness and allowing you to ignore the standard rules that apply to your own citizens who you do care about.
Voila.![]()
Just one too. SP's. However, in domination game you want SP's primarily to deal with unhappiness. You don't need these - and you have more than enough culture to spend on other ones.There are plenty of reasons not to annex a city and there are plenty of reasons to do so. I don't see how this creates an "optimal" strategy. I've managed huge puppet empires with happiness through the roof, so you don't have just one option.
If you puppet, can you later annex the city?
Just one too. SP's. However, in domination game you want SP's primarily to deal with unhappiness. You don't need these - and you have more than enough culture to spend on other ones.
If you actually compare extra hammers gained by annexing cities and marginal National buildings costs, you'll laugh. It's not even close.Your national buildings get more expensive
Well, someone's laziness cannot be a valid argument. Game mechanics doesn't care about it and serious players (unlike lazy me) too.have to personally manage each city
600g in domination game isn't much. At all. One descent medieval unit. City will produce eventually more than that.you have an initial outlay of 600g per city or however many insane turns it takes to build in the city
All the garbage puppets build also has maintenance costs.continuing maintainance costs.
Annexed cities increase production.In an domination game, I'm just as interested in SPs that help manage my empires production
With each courthouse you currently can grow more than without it.growth
University in annexed city will give you more beakers than turtling puppet will ever be able to.research
You don't need policies just for the sake of it. You need them to help you. When you don't need help you just don't need it. If what you say was true, OCC would have been the only optimal path. It is not. All of this definitely applies to cultural games, but other than that your thesis fails. SP's don't win games. Hammers and beakers do. The more cities you have which produce hammers and beakers the better. And ironically enough, building a wide empire by yourself is currently less optimal than taking over foreign cities. If that's not narrowing to a single strategy, what is?You can easily have an empire of 20-30 cities on a standard pangea before the renessiance hits, so you can kiss goodbye to getting any benefit from the post-renessiance policies if you've annexed them all.
If that's not a deterrent then what is? The perceived issue of the courthouse "bug" simply, in my view, isn't there. It's a trade off, which as far as I can see is exactly what it should be.