duke o' york
It don't mean a thing....
No! No! This isn't that funny any more. Good guesses, but not right yet! I'll give the answer tomorrow if no-one's got it by then. 
Cumulative History Quiz #4
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Sodak
Paha Sapa Papa
The New Company?
I think it's time to cough up the answer, or we'll be forced to browse for it ourselves!
I think it's time to cough up the answer, or we'll be forced to browse for it ourselves!
Andu Indorin
Retired Druid
Dead easy, huh???
According to my source (Langer), in 1614 the New Netherland Company was formed and given a monopoly on trade between the 40th and 45th parallels in North America (roughly what is now Philadelphia north to what is now the northern boundary of New York/Vermont).
duke o' york
It don't mean a thing....
Well I'm afraid that my source wasn't that specific, but you're right 
Now we can all move on with our lives, forget the whole sorry New Netherland Company episode and have a new question.
Now we can all move on with our lives, forget the whole sorry New Netherland Company episode and have a new question
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Andu Indorin
Retired Druid
Major John M. Chivington of the 1st Colorado Volunteers distinguished in the battles around Glorieta, New Mexico (March, 1862) when he led a detachment that destroyed the Texas supply train of General Harry Hopkins Sibley; this action forced the otherwise victorious Confederate forces to end their attempts to secure New Mexico and strike at Colorado's gold fields. How did Chivington subsequently gain notoriety in U.S. history, which led to his being cashiered from the army?
Andu Indorin
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That was quick! The Sand Creek Massacre is the answer -- one of the blackest moments in U.S. history.
... Black Kettle, one of the most famous chiefs of the southern Cheyennes, was the leader of the Colorado tribes whose existence had been menaced by the discovery of gold in that territory.
Black Kettle had tried to keep his people at peace with the invading whites, but in spite of his efforts unavoidable clashes occurred between the Colorado gold miners and the Indians of that region. Upon the advice of Major E.W. Wyncoop, commandant of Fort Lyon, some the Colorado Cheyennes went to Denver in 1864 to talk with the governor of the territory. As a result of this conference Black Kettle brought his people in to the Big South Bend of Sand Creek, thirty miles northeast of Fort Lyon. To prove his loyalty to the United States, Black Kettle mounted an American flag over his own tepee.
For no apparent reason other than hatred, Colonel J.M. Chivington and his Colorado Volunteers attacked this camp in a surprise dawn raid on November 29, 1864. It has been charged that the gold field volunteers, fearful of being called east to fight in the Civil War, deliberately attempted to foment an Indian war which would keep them at home. Whatever the reason, the indiscriminate slaughter of the surprised Cheyennes--men, women, and children--was so appalling that some of the most hard-bitten frontiersmen were disgusted. Kit Carson, who could scarcely be called a lover of the Indians, described the Sand Creek affair as a cold-blooded massacre. "No one but a coward or a dog would have had a part of it." -- Dee Brown, The American West
You're up Becka!
... Black Kettle, one of the most famous chiefs of the southern Cheyennes, was the leader of the Colorado tribes whose existence had been menaced by the discovery of gold in that territory.
Black Kettle had tried to keep his people at peace with the invading whites, but in spite of his efforts unavoidable clashes occurred between the Colorado gold miners and the Indians of that region. Upon the advice of Major E.W. Wyncoop, commandant of Fort Lyon, some the Colorado Cheyennes went to Denver in 1864 to talk with the governor of the territory. As a result of this conference Black Kettle brought his people in to the Big South Bend of Sand Creek, thirty miles northeast of Fort Lyon. To prove his loyalty to the United States, Black Kettle mounted an American flag over his own tepee.
For no apparent reason other than hatred, Colonel J.M. Chivington and his Colorado Volunteers attacked this camp in a surprise dawn raid on November 29, 1864. It has been charged that the gold field volunteers, fearful of being called east to fight in the Civil War, deliberately attempted to foment an Indian war which would keep them at home. Whatever the reason, the indiscriminate slaughter of the surprised Cheyennes--men, women, and children--was so appalling that some of the most hard-bitten frontiersmen were disgusted. Kit Carson, who could scarcely be called a lover of the Indians, described the Sand Creek affair as a cold-blooded massacre. "No one but a coward or a dog would have had a part of it." -- Dee Brown, The American West
You're up Becka!
Becka
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Finally got one! Ok, how about a little more Native American history...
In 1838-1839, over ten thousand Cherokee were forced to move to modern-day Oklahoma from North Carolina in what is called the "Trail of Tears". This name comes from a Cherokee phrase that described it, Nunna-da-ul-tsu-yi. What does this Cherokee phrase mean?
In 1838-1839, over ten thousand Cherokee were forced to move to modern-day Oklahoma from North Carolina in what is called the "Trail of Tears". This name comes from a Cherokee phrase that described it, Nunna-da-ul-tsu-yi. What does this Cherokee phrase mean?
Andu Indorin
Retired Druid
Well, I could look it up on the web ... but that's sort of cheating.
Sodak
Paha Sapa Papa
I'm afraid the average civ fanatic has not brushed up on his Cherokee lately, what with the release of Civ3 and all.
This one calls for guesses!
"Nunna-da-ul-tsu-yi" is Cherokee for "trail of tears" in English.
or...
"path of sorrow"
"trail of the dead"
"paleface so ugly I wanna cry"
???
This one calls for guesses!
"Nunna-da-ul-tsu-yi" is Cherokee for "trail of tears" in English.
or...
"path of sorrow"
"trail of the dead"
"paleface so ugly I wanna cry"
???
Andu Indorin
Retired Druid
Perhaps. It's not the sort of thing I'd remember after 15 or 20 years, which is the last time I've read a book on U.S. history.
Becka
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Originally posted by Sodak
I'm afraid the average civ fanatic has not brushed up on his Cherokee lately, what with the release of Civ3 and all.
This one calls for guesses!
"Nunna-da-ul-tsu-yi" is Cherokee for "trail of tears" in English.
or...
"path of sorrow"
"trail of the dead"
"paleface so ugly I wanna cry"
???
No. But the first one is closest.
I'll post a new question. But first let me think of one. The only reason I picked that one is because it was the only one I could think of at the time.
Becka
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Alright. Here is another question. World War I history. 
How did the seven assasins who were planning to kill Archduke Fransis Ferdinand plan to kill themselves? In other words, they were going to kill themselves by what means?
Let's see if someone can get this one. Good luck!
How did the seven assasins who were planning to kill Archduke Fransis Ferdinand plan to kill themselves? In other words, they were going to kill themselves by what means?
Let's see if someone can get this one. Good luck!
Let's ensure that this question won't kill the thread ; It's pretty easy:Originally posted by Becka
I've killed another thread. It isn't the first time.Maybe someone else should choose a question.
In what year and in what country Trotsky died? And how?
Alcibiaties of Athenae
Imperator
Mexico, 1940, killed by a Stalinist agent.
The guy hit Trotsky with an Ice axe in the head, but it didn't kill him right away, he instead said "He must be taken alive for questioning!", typical of a life long aggitator.
Another commie question:The famous city of Stalingrad can no longer be found on maps.
What is it called now, what was it called before Stalingrad, and why was the name changed?
Cos after the death of Stalin, the CPSU became anti-Stalinist due to his past atrocities (?), so they chged the name of the city (which had been renamed to honour Stalin originally). Like goododa had mentioned, it is now Volgagrad.
