Darkness - Chieftain level

[Darkness]

Now it's 420 AD. I entered the Industrial age in 380 AD, and I gifted first Greece and then Persia into the Industrial age also to trade for their techs. Greece got medicine, which wasn't the one I wanted (but I traded for it anyway) so I had to gift Persia to. They got Steam Power. So I traded medicine and Printing press plus some cash for the tech I wanted and started building RR.
Then I started researching MT, which I got in 420 AD. Now I'll upgrade my huge (15 horseman) army and breeze through Persia I think...

Complete update following when I reach 500 AD

 

[Takeo]

15 cavalry on chieftain is definately a 'huge army'
you could probably send 1 unit to each city

 

[Darkness]

Originally posted by Takeo
15 cavalry on chieftain is definately a 'huge army'
you could probably send 1 unit to each city

Maybe I'll send two to the capital...
No, seriously, I'll probably send them out in pairs, to be sure.

 

[Darkness]

(Edited for spelling )

OK, I finally found time to play the 8 turns that I needed to reach 500 AD. (took me 5 hours though...)

After researching MT in 420 AD I went 100% cash for my upgrades for 2 turns and after that I researched electricity in 6 turns (unfortunately I'm not able to get Indus. age techs in 4 turns right now, because my FP is not yet online.
I erred because of the changed FP effects in C3C, so I started to build it really late in a town around 20 tiles away from the capita, in 45% corrupt town, and switched my pre-build even further away ( a 1 spt town) to a bank.

After upgrading my horseman I breezed through Persia in 3 turns, promoting two cavs to elites. Unfortunately chieftain level AI is so incompetent that of the 2 cities they had I autorazed 8.
So I moved my army along the railroad to the Russian teritories and attacked them too (that was on the last turn I played, autorazed two cities).

Stats:
Area: 34%
235 cities
58 settlers
312 workers
24 cavalries
5 caravels
7 luxuries hooked up, and the Russians control no.8
Rep. Parts in 7 turns, but will be quicker 'cause FP is up in 3 turns.
Score: 1059 (19 ppt increase)

My minimap:

 

[Darkness]

680 AD

Russia's dead, so now I control 8 luxuries...

I declared war on America and Babylon recently, and the war is going smoothly...

I have around 330 cities, and control around 50% of the available teritory (3300 tiles).
Score is nearly 1489 points, with a 29 ppt increase.

I have 450 workers, which helps me improve my lands very fast, unfortunately my turns now take between 1 1/2 and 2 hours each.

My main problem right now is getting settlers to their destinations ASAP, 'cause they have to travel quite large distances...

BTW, I love those civil engineers...

 

[blindside]

lol Its funny how you pretty much have the game beaten by 680 AD and yet only have 1489. I forget how small the score multiplier was.

 

[superslug]

Originally posted by blindside
lol Its funny how you pretty much have the game beaten by 680 AD and yet only have 1489. I forget how small the score multiplier was.

There is no multiplier on Chieftain!

 

[Svar]

The specialists in C3C are great. You can get a size 12 city that is totally corrupt but has good food tiles to produce as many as 7 specialists after railroads and those 7 specialists can produce 21 science breakers.

 

[Darkness]

Originally posted by blindside
lol Its funny how you pretty much have the game beaten by 680 AD and yet only have 1489.

The score will rise....

What really seems to slow my quest for the domination limit is the fact that the AI on chieftain level is so incapable that of all the cities I take I raze around 75% of them. Which forces me to repopulate the world using another settler flood, which is way slower than conquering cities...

@svar: The change of the way specialists work is great in C3C, just like the bonus of having an agricultural civ, but corruption is really cripling...

 

[Darkness]

OK, I have now eliminated all but one of the AI 'rivals'...
Only Greece remains with a tundra city, which cannot grow past size 2 (I gave it to him )

I switched to democracy a couple of turns ago, to get on with full-scale milking and I control 4364 tiles (domination limit is 4373) with some small cultural expansions coming up.
I am researching combustion now, beelining for ecology, for mass transits.

My score is now 2730 points with a 43 ppt increase...

 

[EMan]

Sounds like you have the formula for a NUMBER 1 score, Darkness......BIG Dom. Limit......Well-Played Game!

BEST OF LUCK!!

 

[Darkness]

This is what my world looks like in 1500AD. Not much interesting happening in my game. All my cities are on wealth and the score is steadily increasing.

Score: 5640 point
Increase: 33 ppt

Sorry Bremp, but your no.1 score's going down....

 

[superslug]

Looking good Darkness!

 

[fret]

That is looking very good!

What stage of the milk process are you at? Mainly, have you maxed out your population yet? How far away from(or past) your ppt peak?

I was going to have a go at the chieftan score after Ive finished my current emperor game. It looks like your going to make it even more impossible!!!

 

[Darkness]

Originally posted by fret
What stage of the milk process are you at? Mainly, have you maxed out your population yet? How far away from(or past) your ppt peak?

I was going to have a go at the chieftan score after Ive finished my current emperor game. It looks like your going to make it even more impossible!!!

I am (and have been fully milking/ only building wealth) for the last 20-30 turns.
My population maxed out around 20 turns ago.
My peak in ppt (43ppt) was around 1300 AD, IIRC, about 40 turns ago... I estimate I'm losing about 1 ppt every 4-5 turns, it'll stabailize...

 

[fret]

Interesting stuff Darkness, even if it stabalises as low as 15-20 ppt it looks like the 10K barrier is going to be broken on Chieftan

 

[Jurimax]

(-> threadjacking begins)
Looking great Darkness.
I think I might try an attempt myself. Allthough my skiils aren't as high as yours and many of the people here in the HOF section.

I tried your settings (Arch, warm, ...) and I came up with a map that has a domination limit of 4501 tiles

It could be an attempt to your high-score (you'll probably beat the No 1 position) if it weren't for my lack of skills.

Does anyone have any tips?
(-> threadjacking ends)

Great work Darkness

Greetz Jurimax

 

[fret]

Originally posted by Jurimax
Does anyone have any tips?

Yes, if you want the number 1 spot in a HOF table, dont try and do it on Chieftan

I reckon Darkness' No 1 Warlord score will be the easiest No 1 score to beat, no disrepect to Darkness, and 16K is a great score for that level, its just that the Warlord HOF table is the most under-developed IMO.

 

[Bremp]

Oh no.


j/k

Great game Darkness
I believe that your score will be around 10100-10200 points. The high domination limit certainly made the diference.
But be sure that I will try to take the first place back.

 

[Darkness]

Originally posted by Jurimax
I tried your settings (Arch, warm, ...) and I came up with a map that has a domination limit of 4501 tiles

It could be an attempt to your high-score (you'll probably beat the No 1 position) if it weren't for my lack of skills.

Does anyone have any tips?

That's a great domination limit Jurimax. I haven't seen them over 4400 yet (in my own games). If the starting location is good, than this is definately a map to play for the HoF

@Fret: No problems here, I agree with you. When you calculate back to chieftain equivalent score (dividing by the difficulty level multiplication factor) the warlord level no. 1 is the lowest no. 1 around, so it should definately be the easiest no. 1 to beat.

@Bremp: Thanks
SirPleb's score calculator has me around 10100, so your estimation is likely spot on...
And give it your best shot! The more competition the better.


1750 AD update:
7060 points, with a 24 ppt increase....