DBear01--Put Away Your Swords

[Kriz]

Dbear, to rid us from Abubu!

Got it...

 

[jb1964]

This was the last posted roster...

DBear
soul_warrior
jb1964
Admiral Kutzov
Kriz

AK and I started up turns at the same time and I asked he finish out but I wasn't asking for a skip.
Dbear played the next set.
Now Kriz is posting an "I got it".

Can I please squeeze in here somewhere?

 

[soul_warrior]

take it after Kriz, JB. im sure there wont be any oblections (right, DBear?) if not you can switch with me, as im facing a few hectic days up ahead.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

im facing a few hectic days up ahead.

Final exams at the idiot academy? looking to move up to second class?

 

[Kriz]

Sorry JB, things got a little confused. Please go ahead after this one:

Pre-flight: Disband 7 bows. Lugdunum and Amman to Settler.

1380 Babylon gets polluted, clean it up. Found Fuscat->temple. Karbala to Settler. Disband 3 bows. Eridu to University. Rush temple in Tudmor.

1385 Tudmor Temple->lib, Karana Settler->University, Lugdunum Settler->Court, Mandali Settler->Court, Amman Settler->Court. Found Tombouctou->Settler. Disband 2 bows.

1390 Found Tanger->Temple

IBT: Ottos build Maggellan's

1395 Shuruppak to Palace. Fan out workers to railroad all squares in the core. Found Tobruk->Temple. Sana to Settler because we can chop wood there to speed it up. Rush temple in Mansura.

1400 Ellipi Bank->Factory, Mansura Temple->library, Nina Harbor->Court. Rush Temple in Anjar.

1405 Charchemish University->Cathedral, Anjar Temple->library. Notice Osman is very rich, so sell him Electricity for 2290g, 138gpt. Rush all temple and library builds in Arabia. Research slider to 70%. Rush cathedral in Arbil to put more pressure on Cirta.

1410 Replaceable Parts->Communism. Nineveh Cathedral->Factory. Ashur Factory->Coal Plant. Eridu University->Cathedral. Eulbar Cathedral->Factory. Larsa Bank->Settler. Tell Wilaya Cathedral->bank. Karbala Settler->Library. Most Arab towns Temple->Library.

1415 Science to 80%, burning to Communism in 5 turns at -35. Convert almost all specialists to Engineers.

1420 Akkad Heroic Epic->Cathedral, Zariqum Cathedral->factory, Mari Aqueduct->Market. Spot Privateer near Lutetia. Found Riyadh->Temple. Rush temple in Damascus, library in Medina.

1425 Medina Library->Court, Damascus Temple->Court, Sippar Court->Aqueduct, Zamua Bank->Settler

Culture meter: We're at 27743 culture making 422 cpt, so we still are 172 turns away from 100K unless we build lots of culture stuff.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Notice Osman is very rich, so sell him Electricity for 2290g, 138gpt.

sweet, the deal should end by the time we have the invasion force up. I'm slow. Do we have the MA yet? where? IMIO, that city builds nothing but armies.

 

[soul_warrior]

final exams at the idiot academy? looking to move up to second class?

how did you guess? maybe ill ask for promotion after this game?

Pre-flight: Disband 7 bows. Lugdunum and Amman to Settler.

alll those units disbanded? u sure it was nessesary?

Culture meter: We're at 27743 culture making 422 cpt, so we still are 172 turns away from 100K unless we build lots of culture stuff.

so when is our estimated win date?

 

[DBear]

172 turns from 1425AD would be 1957AD. I think we can do better than that. Use engineers to speed up culture in the newer cities. We can also pack in more cities as well.

 

[Kriz]

sweet, the deal should end by the time we have the invasion force up. I'm slow. Do we have the MA yet? where? IMIO, that city builds nothing but armies.

Still in war mode? I doubt if Osman ever will declare on us with his tiny 4-city empire. Dbear rushed the MA in Babylon, and no, it is not producing armies. Perhaps its time for a team decision on war plans? Otherwise each player will just do as he pleases. I myself didn't build a single military unit in my turnset.

alll those units disbanded? u sure it was nessesary?

I'm not so sure but I hated the sight of all those obsolete units eating gpt, so I used them to spit out some settlers in improductive areas. Are you suggesting I should have kept them for MP in Communism? Forgot about that...

so when is our estimated win date?

Dunno. Presently we have 5 years per turn but I don't know when that changes. Anybody knows where the years-per-turn schedule is documented?

 

[DBear]

25 turns @ 50 years 4000-2750BC
25 turns @ 40 years 2750-1750BC
40 turns @ 25 years 1750- 750BC
50 turns @ 20 years 750BC-250AD
100 turns @ 10 years 250-1250
100 turns @ 5 years 1250-1750
100 turns @ 2 years 1750-1950
100 turns @ 1 year 1950-2050

Our last turn played was 1425. It is 65 turns @ 5 years/turn to 1750.
Then 100 turns will take us to 1950. 7 turns to 1957 as indicated above.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

stray thoughts -

I'm paranoid in addition to my other problems and always worry about not having enough military. I'm not worried about taking it off army building for a city improvement or a wonder, but babylon shouldn't skip build armies to knock out x number of whatever unit.

Once we get the cops and CE fine tuned, we'll knock decades off the win date

I still think the even corruption of communism will speed our progress. Don't overlook the power of KGB HQ to give us another monster city.

Once the railnet is up, we can dump all the old units.

 

[Kriz]

Our military is strong compared to the Hittites, Carthaginians and Ottomans, and average compared to the Germans, Romans and Scandinavians. We're in a good shape and they're all in Democracy, so there is no immediate danger.

Lets just finish factories, coal plants and wonders in our core, we will become super producers. Then we can build a good amount of Infantry and Artillery. Armies are nice for counter-invasion so lets start building them in Babylon once Suffrage comes in.

Our railnet is already up, we can dump the old units while producing modern ones.

Communism will arrive in 2 turns, agree with the Admiral that we should revolt. BTW, I more or less counted on the AI to research Medicine so that we could trade for it. Instead the Germans also researched Communism and got it 2 turns before us

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Start a prebuild for the SPHQ somewhere if we're definitely going commie

My preference is to irrigate all tiles in the non core towns and use specialists to compensate. How's everyone feel about that?

 

[soul_warrior]

Lets just finish factories, coal plants and wonders in our core, we will become super producers. Then we can build a good amount of Infantry and Artillery. Armies are nice for counter-invasion so lets start building them in Babylon once Suffrage comes in.

Our railnet is already up, we can dump the old units while producing modern ones.

i totally agree
lets go commie, producea bunch of infs and arts and go bomb th e****e out of the AI

PS - how about my variant proposal?

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

lets go commie, producea bunch of infs and arts and go bomb th e****e out of the AI

I need to buy a letter.

 

[soul_warrior]

I need to buy a letter.

well, im willing to contribute an S, an H and a T.
you need to fill in the dots.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

here in the new world, we don't normally add the e for effect at the end

 

[Kriz]

Start a prebuild for the SPHQ somewhere if we're definitely going commie

Ellipi is presently doing a prebuild, originally meant for ToE. We could use that for the SPHQ.

My preference is to irrigate all tiles in the non core towns and use specialists to compensate. How's everyone feel about that?

Fully agree.

how about my variant proposal?

Did I miss something? What variant?

 

[soul_warrior]

Did I miss something? What variant?

dont pay attention to dear ol' me. starting to mix up my SG's.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kriz
Did I miss something? What variant?


dont pay attention to dear ol' me. starting to mix up my SG's.

now that you've mentioned it, you need to detail it so we don't have to deploy igor to search. What variant?