Defeated by not so peaceful deity AI after BNW(turn 70)

[IronfighterXXX]

I am an experienced deity player and won a lot of deity games. By reading a lot about the peace-loving AI after BNW I started the first BNW game without paying much attention to my military. This was a mistake. I was attacked by Sweden and soon lost my capital. I put my save in case someone want to avenge me . (I'm going to do it also with less peaceful approach ).

 

[Chiatroll]

I kind of like how the AI tries stuff other then murder to win now. I just wish they were better at victory conditions other then science and murder.

I've been playing on immortal and when I buy all the City states due to a very strong economy the AI seems to just give up on diplomatic victory and throw a fit at me and it builds culture wonders but I'm not sure it knows what trades and a theme bonus mean.

I should not easily beat AI venice in a bidding war for city states.

 

[Falconiano]

In BNW when near to Assyria, Rome, Nap, Monty, Alex, Zulu, Oda and Sweden you should play like GK military-wise.

I learned this the hard way too. Oda+Assyria sammich, I got my butt handed to me.

 

[chukownu]

Maybe a freak coincidence but every time I've played as Morroco, AIs seem prone to earlier aggression. Even Portugal has DoWed me :\

Makes me wonder if trade route potential of a city plays into AI coveting, and if they don't subtract modifications from UAs/Policies/East India Company in order to evaluate the strength of trade from the city as if they were in control of it.

 

[Harald Hairfair]

Maybe a freak coincidence but every time I've played as Morroco, AIs seem prone to earlier aggression. Even Portugal has DoWed me :\

Makes me wonder if trade route potential of a city plays into AI coveting, and if they don't subtract modifications from UAs/Policies/East India Company in order to evaluate the strength of trade from the city as if they were in control of it.

I played 1 game recently with Morocco as my neighbour, and that game was a world war from turn 1. Hmm...

 

[Jensonian]

Situational for sure.

Just now finished a Diplo victory with Morocco, ending it around turn 250 on Quick settings.

6,000 years of peace and prosperity. Not a single DoW from anybody. The hardest thing I had to decide was what victory to go for.

I know it will probably NEVER happen again, but it was amazing while it lasted

 

[Deau]

They are peaceful because we bribe our neighbors into wars. The AI almost never DoWs on their own if they're already involved in a war.

 

[Mercure]

Genghis Khan tend to attack me really quickly, but if he fail, his economy crash you may invade him really easy.

 

[Soronery]

early deity rushes are much more brutal and some of them are nearly impossible to defend directly.

 

[IronfighterXXX]

They are peaceful because we bribe our neighbors into wars. The AI almost never DoWs on their own if they're already involved in a war.

So nothing new since G&K

 

[Deau]

So nothing new since G&K

In GnK I'd get DoWed by AIs at war every now and then. I'd also be dowed by nearly any civ besides Ghandi at random occasions. In BnW, I can predict it significantly more and bribe prior.

 

[njmfff]

Maybe a freak coincidence but every time I've played as Morroco, AIs seem prone to earlier aggression. Even Portugal has DoWed me :\

hmm, same here. Altho, my closest neighbors were Shaka, Askia and Oda, so no surprises there. They were all "friendly" until around turn 80, when Shaka attacked, and Oda some 15-20 turns later.

Askia was probably the funniest\most annoying, because he started to circle around my cities with HUGE force, and keep circling around them for the next 60-70 turns, not leaving, not attacking.

 

[Jensonian]

hmm, same here. Altho, my closest neighbors were Shaka, Askia and Oda, so no surprises there. They were all "friendly" until around turn 80, when Shaka attacked, and Oda some 15-20 turns later.

As you said, neighbors and terrain. My 250 turn diplo victory with Morocco ended with me never getting DoW'ed

 

[Buccaneer]

I am getting a run of bad luck with certain civs, namely shoshone and Japan and Aztecs that love to overrun. I guess my complaints about passive civs (on immortal) leaves much to be desired.

What I have to re-learn is how to keep up on the bottom techs while bee lining philo - education - acoustics - arch if I want to play a cultural game. Or make sure I am fairly isolated.

I would ask how one could keep up militarily while going top techs but as someone said, play like G&K and get high bpt.

 

[tommynt]

2 cities, 1 size 2 at turn 70

OBVIOUSLY ai kills u if its that easy

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[Loucypher]

2 cities, 1 size 2 at turn 70

OBVIOUSLY ai kills u if its that easy

You do note he had at least 3 cities, right? You can see the captured Marrakech, Fes, and another unidentified city to the south-west on the minimap.

 

[IronfighterXXX]

2 cities, 1 size 2 at turn 70

OBVIOUSLY ai kills u if its that easy

Well, on second screenshot I just lost my capital, which was slightly bigger (and had NC)

 

[njmfff]

As you said, neighbors and terrain. My 250 turn diplo victory with Morocco ended with me never getting DoW'ed

Maybe it's just my luck, but when I want to play as warmonger, I get Ghandi, Theodora and rest of the peaceful neighbors, but if I decide to play peacefully I always end up being surrounded by warmongers.

 

[FrostK]

Start position is hard, but 8 science from capital? No library?

 

[IronfighterXXX]

Start position is hard, but 8 science from capital? No library?

As I wrote above on second screenshot I just lost my original capital (Marrakech) with library, National College, etc