Demigod/Deity difficulty

[Jivilov]

Hi Civ3 fans. Just wondered if anybody noticed that Ginger_Ale lists vanilla/PTW Deity cost factors differently in two different posts (no doubt this has been answered before, but couldn't find it in searches).

In a 2006 post--comparing vanilla, PTW and Conquests--he says that vanilla/PTW Deity level is the same as Conquests Demigod, at .7 AI cost factor. Yet in a subsequent 2008 post (for vanilla FAQ's) he lists the Deity cost factor as .6.

Given that Sulla (aka sullla on this forum) noted in his testing for Conquests (2004 or thereabouts) that Demigod is BETWEEN Emperor (.8 AI cost factor) and Deity (.6) at .7, it would seem that Ginger_Ale's last post is correct. IOW Deity is .6 in all versions, and Demigod is .7 in Conquests only. Just checking, thanks.

 

[Puppeteer]

I don't know, but you could use diplomacy to investigate an AI city and see how big the food and shield boxes are and see for sure what their build costs are compared to yours.

The attached screenshot is Emperor difficulty, and you can see the food box is 16f instead of 20, and surely the shield box is also 80% of what mine would be for the same build, but I don't feel like counting the shields just now.

 

[GeneralMeng]

yes demi is 0.7 in conquest and diety should be 0.6 in all versions

 

[Lanzelot]

I had also noticed this inconsistency recently in the Info Center, and wasn't sure myself, especially as the HOF ranks Vanilla/PTW Deity games in the same tables as C3C Demigod. So I checked it in a PTW test game: Deity is .6 in all versions.
(No idea why the HOF throws Vanilla/PTW Deity into the same bucket as C3C Demigod and has a different category for C3C Deity?!?)

 

[Jivilov]

Thanks folks. It would seem that yes, Deity is .6 in all versions. Another mystery in this marvelous game system has been solved. The downside is that, should I ever win on Demigod, it would still be inadequate . C'est la vie, n'est-ce pas?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

(No idea why the HOF throws Vanilla/PTW Deity into the same bucket as C3C Demigod and has a different category for C3C Deity?!?)

It is mainly scoring. C3C Demigod scores as well as Vanilla/PTW Deity with the multiplier at 7.


Although, there are a few things, difficulty-wise, where Vanilla/PTW Deity is only as hard as C3C Deity. But I forgot which there are, exactly. It has something to do with corruption.

 

[Seymen]

Yes it seems it costs 60% of the building cost of the Wonders for the AI to build them. See attached screenshots. In this scenario Lighthouse costs 220 shields for me the human player, but for the AI it comes with a 40% discount.