Democracy After Smith's?

[Donovan Zoi]

Well, it looks like there is a chance we will only be pursuing one wonder in the near future --- Adam Smith's Trading Company is due to be finished in Gorina in 11 turns.

As soon as this is built, I suggest that we revolt immediately to enter Democracy --- even we decide to make a go for ToG or Shakespeare. This will help our treasury immensely as most of our larger cities are equipped with Libraries and Marketplaces.

So, are we ready?

 

[donsig]

I'd say swiitch to democarcy as soon as Smith's is built (by us or anyone else). BTW, do we have a back-up plan in case someone else builds Smith's?

 

[Donovan Zoi]

My only thought for a back-up plan would be to research Free Artistry and obtain it in the projected 6 turns.

In a worse case scenario(should the public vote differently), we could revert to a Palace pre-build in Gorina and try for Shakespeare or ToG. Or we could see the Palace to completion and centralize our capital a bit more.

 

[conehead234]

I think that going to Democracy after smiths is a good idea. We don't want to lose out on a important wonder.

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

I am going to have to be the dissenting opinion and say "just a second". If we LOOSE smith (btw- the new "what next" poll is up and i strongly recomend voting Free Artistry as a just in case), we are going to be stuck with several other Cascade civs and they will go for a wonder too. If we have another wonder in our hand, I sugest we build THAT, THEN go to Democracy. The Demo change is a must, but wait for whatever happens post smith.

 

[zorven]

I think that when Smith's is built (by anybody) we change to democracy. If we don't get Smith's, we should change the build to the Palace and then decide while we are in anarchy what wonder we should go after or if we want to move the Palace.

 

[zorven]

Ok, Smith's has been built. Where does everybody stand on this issue? Should we change now, wait until after a war with Egypt, wait for other reasons?

 

[Donovan Zoi]

I have this feeling that there will many that want to postpone our ascent into Democracy again due to the impending war plans with Egypt.

However, I feel that now would be the perfect time to switch. Once in Democracy we will enjoy much better production for our military forces, and since don't have many units right now, it will be easier for us to prepare our treasury for support of new troops once we know how beneficial the new government will be.

Please, let us not find another excuse to delay this any longer. Let's make the switch now.

 

[Falcon02]

DZ I'm tempted to agree with you, two big worries though War Warriness (can be fixed if we take out Cleo quickly) and Military Unit Support, none of our units will be support free in Democracy, so if our Corruption improvement isn't greater then the number of "free" units. Though we're gonna have to deal with the second sooner or later, so I tend to agree that now might be a good time to switch..

 

[donsig]

Heres a thought - let's call off the war, switch to democracy and be builders!

 

[Falcon02]

Originally posted by donsig
Heres a thought - let's call off the war, switch to democracy and be builders!

By Annexing Egypt we will increase the productivity provided by the Forbidden Palace. I do not intend to promote any war after this one, however the general poll showed a overall popular opinion in favor of a war in the near future, assumably Egypt. Though I do intend to post a poll specifically asking about targeting Egypt.

Edit, forgot about Boot's Poll...... oops

 

[DaveShack]

I recommend timing anarchy to the turn we discover Steam Power and find out if we have coal. The turns of anarchy can be spent building railroads which would give us a boost coming out into Democracy.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

Could someone please post a poll on when we should go into Democracy?

Please include the options:

1. Right now
2. Sometime before the Egyptian War
3. Sometime after the Egyptian War
4. Never


Sound good? If not, please make any adjustments and send it on its way. If the public okays it, I would like us to enter Anarchy at the beginning of tomorrow's chat.

 

[GenMarshall]

@DZ - I would like to do the honors of posting that poll

 

[DaveShack]

Originally posted by CivGeneral
@DZ - I would like to do the honors of posting that poll

I'll check tonight during my game play time (first comes play with the rugrat time ) and if it hasn't been posted yet will do so.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

Thanks for the offer, guys, but I have posted the Democracy poll here.