Democracy vs Republic on crowded map.

[twilson]

Hi all

Just curious about wether people feel democracy is signifigantly better for peaceful gains even when the map is very crowded and empires relatively small.

I decided to have a crowded map to add a different challenge (every civ enabled, marlas european map) and its going ok. I got the great library...so im actually 2 or 3 techs up. Ive got about 18 cities..and nearest rival has about 10... i thought that might be enough city advantage for a peaceful win as map now fully settled..

But its come to the point now where i have to decide wether to go education/banking/democracy and kill my great library or wait for someone else to discover it and stay republic.

Now this has made me look at wether democracy is actually that superior ...and maybee im missing something but..

150% worker efficiency....ok but most my land is roaded/mined/irrigated fully now anyway

Less corruption... i do have some corruption 50% on furthest flung city... but i will still have corruption even under democracy...

More problems with war weariness!...the AI seems intent on fighting me and under republic it isnt causing much problem.


So...question is ... are there reasons im missing here for a rush to democracy? On civ 2 it was miles better if i recal and i would beeline to it if going peacefull...but it seems less clear cut here.

Also one q, for some reason i seem to be getting unit support....under a republic!!!

is this some effect of using marlas european map?

Thanks

 

[Arexander]

What version of CivIII you have? in Vanilla and PTW republic won't give you unit support, but in Conquest you get some unit support. IIRC you get 1 free unit for every town (6 or less people), 2 for every city (7-12) and 4 for every metropolises (12 or more).

At your position I would stay at republic, as for the facts you stated (AI fighting, tiles improved, low corruption). Democracy would make you some trouble as your citizens would go mad about every little war and you don't need 50% exttra workerspeed as nearly all you need to do is improve the last tiles, railroad and then just clean pollution (when you get that far).

About Education and The Great Library, If I remember correctly, AI likes to research the lower (military) path first, so you could set research to 0%, cash in and let the AI do your research.

Hope this helped.

 

[twilson]

Hi Arexander yup i had considered doing that ..in all my recent less crowded regent games though (i know easy mode!) ive got miles and miles ahead on tech though so it is hard to make myself do it lol. I suspect with so many civs its going to be hard to get a big lead at any point due to massive AI trading?.

I have Tzus and really good production, i might conquer one of my smaller neighbours to up the empire size advantage if im staying republic

Anyway thanks for the tips!

Trev

 

[twilson]

Oh im conquests by the way, which explains the support

 

[Delphi456]

What version of CivIII you have? in Vanilla and PTW republic won't give you unit support, but in Conquest you get some unit support. IIRC you get 1 free unit for every town (6 or less people), 2 for every city (7-12) and 4 for every metropolises (12 or more).

I believe in C3C support is 1/3/4.

 

[Arexander]

Yes, you are right. I just checked from Civilopedia.

 

[Spoonwood]

The second revolution makes Republic the better choice, at least usually.

 

[TheOverseer714]

With Democracy, your country gets war weariness faster and can revolt if things get too rough. The last thing you need during a war is Anarchy. The disadvantages far outweigh the advantages.

 

[twilson]

Yeah stayed republic... but didnt go on the offence, i dont know if anyones played marlas european map with all the civs enabled but its fascinating to play. I picked the english and my role has evolved to be 'maintainging the balance of power' in europe so noone gets too big (currently forming alliances that do the actual fighting to stop poland taking over the world instead of france or russia but its amazingly close to english history in 19th century)

Just need to find some time to 'sleep' now lol

. Thanks guys.