[DG2] Getting Started

[ravensfire]

Honestly - get the ruleset done, settled and ready. Get all the game config polls ready, get the election nomination threads ready and THEN have the announcement posted. Most people don't want to talk about the rules - they want to get the game started. So set it up for that. When the announcement is made, it will be with a sense of excitement.

Capitalize on that by having the nomination threads going, and get people talking about the offices. Make sure those nomination threads clearly describe the office. That excitement will transition into the elections.

Have a poll ready for all the major settings, and start them with the nominations. Have the runoffs go at the same time as the elections, you'll close things off nicely there.

Have all the FAQ threads done and ready, and point them out to people when they ask a question.

Right now, you don't want a general announcement. People will come in, ready to play, and discover that we're weeks away from being ready. That will cost you a sizeable number of people. There is nothing wrong with a small group of people, this group of people, from creating the initial ruleset, and a great deal to benefit from it.

So finish the rules, and as it going through the ratification process, start to work on that announcement - but not earlier than that.

-- Ravensfire

 

[ice2k4]

Honestly - get the ruleset done, settled and ready. Get all the game config polls ready, get the election nomination threads ready and THEN have the announcement posted. Most people don't want to talk about the rules - they want to get the game started. So set it up for that. When the announcement is made, it will be with a sense of excitement.

Capitalize on that by having the nomination threads going, and get people talking about the offices. Make sure those nomination threads clearly describe the office. That excitement will transition into the elections.

Have a poll ready for all the major settings, and start them with the nominations. Have the runoffs go at the same time as the elections, you'll close things off nicely there.

Have all the FAQ threads done and ready, and point them out to people when they ask a question.

Right now, you don't want a general announcement. People will come in, ready to play, and discover that we're weeks away from being ready. That will cost you a sizeable number of people. There is nothing wrong with a small group of people, this group of people, from creating the initial ruleset, and a great deal to benefit from it.

So finish the rules, and as it going through the ratification process, start to work on that announcement - but not earlier than that.

-- Ravensfire

Agreed on pretty much all points.

 

[dutchfire]

After finally figuring out how to enter, I've started up a new document about things that should be polled when we start the game.

So I should just add all of you?

(or should I've started the thing up with the account Dave made?)

 

[DaveShack]

I'd be fine with the small group who are present now setting up the game, if I could be sure that people who aren't here now wouldn't complain about it later.

Of course who's to say that people who are here won't also complain about it too...

 

[Falcon02]

I'd be fine with the small group who are present now setting up the game, if I could be sure that people who aren't here now wouldn't complain about it later.

Honestly, that's part of the reason we normally have an amendment process.

On another note... I still need access to those google docs you're talking about, sent a PM to Strider, no response.

 

[DaveShack]

After finally figuring out how to enter, I've started up a new document about things that should be polled when we start the game.

So I should just add all of you?

(or should I've started the thing up with the account Dave made?)

Either way should be fine. The key, but annoyingly manual, part is the actual giving of access.

Honestly, that's part of the reason we normally have an amendment process.

On another note... I still need access to those google docs you're talking about, sent a PM to Strider, no response.

If you're comfortable with posting an email addr here, we'll all have it to reference when adding collaborators. If not so comfortable, send me a PM and I'll see if I can add you or if it takes the owner to do it.

 

[dutchfire]

collaborators can add new collaborators as I recall.

 

[DaveShack]

Falcon02 is added.

 

[DaveShack]

Duplicated in case there is anyone who isn't following the offices thread but is following this one...

At the end of the last setup period, I told myself that I shouldn't be the main driver for this one. There are a couple of things that I do want to lay claim to (for example asking for the forum setup), but not the overall leadership.

So, who's going to open these polls? My previous remarks on polling were mostly aimed at ensuring we don't take a narrow plurality answer as the final answer and then end up with a disgruntled majority.

 

[Falcon02]

well I was gonna start posting a poll or two (particularly on turnchats) but for some reason I'm not seeing the option in the "new thread" page within the DG forums... I see it in other forums though.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

Falcon, you have to join the Civ4 DG group...go to your User CP, under "Group Memberships" and select "Civ4 DG". I'd also PM Rik or Chieftess, because they probably don't check it often.

DS, as I wrote in the other thread, I'm planning on posting the Offices (and maybe Nominations/Elections and some others) polls tonight.

 

[Falcon02]

Falcon, you have to join the Civ4 DG group...go to your User CP, under "Group Memberships" and select "Civ4 DG". I'd also PM Rik or Chieftess, because they probably don't check it often.

What else can't I do without this membership of honor?

 

[Ginger_Ale]

You can't vote in polls.

Perhaps it's time to ask TF for some new forums, so that we can set up a "clean" citizen registry and group membership. It's pretty pointless to ask one of the mods to ask approval for an inactive group just to post in polls...

 

[GenMarshall]

What else can't I do without this membership of honor?

Well you can poke and bug CT to add you in (IIRC she is the head of the group)

 

[Falcon02]

Well you can poke and bug CT to add you in (IIRC she is the head of the group)

Was already done (thus the Turnchat poll I posted last night)

 

[ice2k4]

Since I've never taken part in any pre-demogame discussions, about how far along do you think we are. Any estimated starting time?

 

[DaveShack]

Since I've never taken part in any pre-demogame discussions, about how far along do you think we are. Any estimated starting time?

Maybe Feb 1st? I think we're pretty much agreed that we'll want to have a draft set of laws ready, that are good enough to start the game with though they may not satisfy the majority once everyone shows up. We want at least 2 weeks after the general announcement goes out to ratify the draft laws, poll the game parameters, and hold elections.

One thing I'd like to do again is break tradition on starting exactly on the 1st, if we need to. Elections can start earlier than usual if we're ready and we could do a long term followed by getting back into the schedule, or we could start after the 1st and have a short term.

 

[GenMarshall]

Why wait untill Feb 1st? It seems too long to just sit around waiting.

 

[Black_Hole]

Why wait untill Feb 1st? It seems too long to just sit around waiting.

you think we can start by Jan 1 (8 days)?

 

[ravensfire]

you think we can start by Jan 1 (8 days)?

Sure!

(of 2008)

-- Ravensfire