Different capital hypothesis

I know they have great options for not making it Madrid, but making it change capital if the other Spain is in the game gives you information about who your random opponents are.
Due to how it seems to be implemented, I think it's inevitable.

But I guess, as in wild guess, they will allow an option to disable multiple leaders per civ in the game config screen.

IMHO is better to have a clear capital for each AI/player leader (even if they are from the same civ) than a repeated city name just to prevent giving to much info on unknown opponents.
 
I don't see the need for linking capitals to leaders. Seems to be too restrictive. If two leaders from the same Civ are opposing each other then both leaders should get randomly selected capitals. This would easily solve the problem.
 
I don't see the need for linking capitals to leaders. Seems to be too restrictive. If two leaders from the same Civ are opposing each other then both leaders should get randomly selected capitals. This would easily solve the problem.

It does not solve the problem, because that tells you who else is in the game before you meet them.
 
I don't see the need for linking capitals to leaders. Seems to be too restrictive. If two leaders from the same Civ are opposing each other then both leaders should get randomly selected capitals. This would easily solve the problem.

It would then let you know that another version of that civ is in the game before meeting them.

I think with America and England, there could be some slight changes to the name of the capital that would allow 2 instances of the same civ in the game and not fully duplicate capitals.

For America -- Washington DC vs. Washington
For England -- Buckingham (Palace) vs. London

If you want to go one further with the Romans -- Roma.

I also like the idea of Franklin as an American leader, based out of Phila. and IIRC, Geo. Washington could also be New York (for his first year).
 
C'mon guys, Rome's alternate leader is very very likely to be Constantine! It would solve the "problem" with Byzantium, show the Eastern Roman Empire and the Dominate period, offer some good interesting gameplay possibilities and finally feature one of Rome's most celebrated emperors!

To be honest, we've discussed this a bit in this thread before:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/now-that-dual-leaders-are-official.599464/page-2#post-14501535
Yes. I had been thinking along the same lines. Constantine could lead Rome from Constantinople.
 
C'mon guys, Rome's alternate leader is very very likely to be Constantine! It would solve the "problem" with Byzantium, show the Eastern Roman Empire and the Dominate period, offer some good interesting gameplay possibilities and finally feature one of Rome's most celebrated emperors!

To be honest, we've discussed this a bit in this thread before:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/now-that-dual-leaders-are-official.599464/page-2#post-14501535

What "problem" with Byzantium? The Byzantine Empire is regarded as different from Rome because it was much more of a mixture of Greek and Roman influences, and mostly never even held Rome.

Just a leader change would not be enough to represent the differences between Rome and Byzantium. There's a great opportunity to have a completely different playstyle, and Firaxis should use it.
 
When I listened to Ed speak about the alternative leaders, it came across to me as if Firaxis wouldn't be releasing alot of alternative leaders, but they wanted to show that it was possible to get the modders thinking about that possibility. It will be interesting to see which one's the modders come up with.
 
When I listened to Ed speak about the alternative leaders, it came across to me as if Firaxis wouldn't be releasing alot of alternative leaders, but they wanted to show that it was possible to get the modders thinking about that possibility. .
This! It really sounded like we only get a handful of them. And I think we won't get the ones that modders will add very soon anyway. Different capitals will make Firaxis choices more interesting imo.
 
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It would then let you know that another version of that civ is in the game before meeting them.

I think with America and England, there could be some slight changes to the name of the capital that would allow 2 instances of the same civ in the game and not fully duplicate capitals.

For America -- Washington DC vs. Washington
For England -- Buckingham (Palace) vs. London

If you want to go one further with the Romans -- Roma.

I also like the idea of Franklin as an American leader, based out of Phila. and IIRC, Geo. Washington could also be New York (for his first year).

That's too lame, imo. Also not necessary. They can find cool leaders with different capitals, no need to do any shoehorning.
 
This is a really interesting possibility. I would be interesting in seeing Brasilia used for an alternate Brazilian leader. Even though Kubitschek was the one who built it, I would probably go with Getulio Vargas since he was arguable a more defining modern leader for Brazil.
 
Well, historically, I think only Prophet Muhammad and his replacements (the Khulafar Rasyidin) ruled from Mecca. The other Arabian leaders ruled from Damascus (Muawiyah) or Baghdad (Harun Al-Rasyid).
 
Well, historically, I think only Prophet Muhammad and his replacements (the Khulafar Rasyidin) ruled from Mecca. The other Arabian leaders ruled from Damascus (Muawiyah) or Baghdad (Harun Al-Rasyid).

Nobody ruled from Mecca, not even Muhammad afaik. He and his replacements ruled from Medina.
 
I think Constantine would be an interesting alternate leader of Rome, and is definitely the #1 choice if they are requiring alternate capitals.

EDIT: On second though, Religion is such a heavily redesigned and important mechanic to Civ 6 that Constantine with some kind of interesting religious ability as LUA makes total sense as a DLC alternate leader of Rome.
 
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Nobody ruled from Mecca, not even Muhammad afaik. He and his replacements ruled from Medina.

Ah yes, I forgot that after Opening of Mekkah, The Prophet moved back to Madina.
 
It does not solve the problem, because that tells you who else is in the game before you meet them.

If the capitals were always random even with just one leader appearing it could work. We're mostly building Civs from scratch anyway so there is no need for perfect historical accuracy.
 
If the capitals were always random even with just one leader appearing it could work. We're mostly building Civs from scratch anyway so there is no need for perfect historical accuracy.

If we're going to make all capitals random, at that point we might as well stop having a distinction between alternate leaders and alternate civs.
 
If we're going to make all capitals random, at that point we might as well stop having a distinction between alternate leaders and alternate civs.

I could be wrong but I believe Civ4 does it this way. Having alternate names for a capital is a minor detail in my opinion. Just seems like a silly detail that would handcuff the developers into choosing only certain leaders.
 
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