Discussion: Balancing Unit Lines

[Senethro]

Just wanted to point out that this is only true if the ranger is defending. If it is attacking, it's 8.4 vs the champions 8.0, giving it 65.5% chance of winning.

Do you want to remind me why?

 

[seizer]

Do you want to remind me why?

Because that's the way the CIV IV combat system works. IIRC any +% except strength promotions subtracts from the opponents multiplier when attacking, not adds to yours. So ranger vs champion works out to 7*(1 + 0.2) = 8.4 vs 8*(1+0.2+0.2-0.4) = 8.0.

 

[readercolin]

The civ combat system always works like above, for both attack and defense. If you want to see an example, take a hunter/scout against an animal.

-Colin

 

[Ekolite]

Also I find it very irritating that you need iron working before you can research the tech for beast masters, meaning that even if you did want to use the recon line as an alternative to melee you can't as you have to research most of the way through it to get your top unit anyway. Same situation for warhorses iirc.

 

[hbar]

This is another good argument for separating the melee and metal lines.

 

[Ekolite]

I would probably have a go at seperating them myself but I suspect it would be beyond my meagre modding skills. Are there any modmods that seperate the two lines?