intellectsucks
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In a couple of other threads, discussions were brought up about whether or not the game "cheats", ie. the AI is not bound by the same rules as the player. Some examples were brought up but not much concrete evidence. I personally believe the the AI DOES NOT have to play by the same rules as the player, but have never really investigated it definitively.
This thread is to figure out whether or not this is the case. If you encounter a situation where you think the AI "cheated" (took an action that should not have been possible by the rules the player needs to follow), please post as much info as possible about it here (screenshots, saves leading up to the action, save showing the action) and a brief description of WHY you think the AI shouldn't have been able to do it.
Some ground rules to make sure this thread doesn't get shut down:
THIS THREAD IS NOT A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT SUCH AI ACTIONS OR GOOD OR BAD FOR THE GAME!! We're only looking for evidence of whether or not this is happening.
ALL DISCUSSIONS WILL BE CIVIL AND FACT BASED!!! If you can show how an action is in accordance with the same rules the player follows, do so. Speculation is not proof, so don't defend it as if it is. These statements apply the same to anyone who is claiming that "cheating" happened. I'll rely on the mods to take appropriate action for anyone personally attacking another poster.
IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANOTHER POSTER'S ANALYSIS YOU MUST SPECIFICALLY STATE THE REASONS WHY!!! If a poster says "this is cheating because of X,Y and Z", then the appropriate response is "It's not cheating because X is really B and Z is really Q." NOT "it's not the games fault you don't know how the rules work." (SEE ABOVE). If a poser says "It's not cheating because of X,Y and Z" the appropriate response is "X doesn't apply in this case and the AI doesn't have access to Z" NOT "You don't get it. Come back when your reading comprehension skills are better."
TESTING YOUR STATEMENT AGAINST POSTED SAVE FILES IS OPTIONAL, BUT WILL ADD TONS OF CREDIBILITY TO YOUR STATEMENTS.
Once again this is not a thread for whining and complaining about how this makes the game impossible. I personally think that the AI does "cheat" but it's just one more obstacle to get past, like a bad map roll or an inopportune natural disaster. This is also not a thread for telling other players that they're just "not good enough". If the AI is doing things that they shouldn't be able to, then the player base should know about it and be able to react accordingly.
Looking forward to the comments and discussion.
This thread is to figure out whether or not this is the case. If you encounter a situation where you think the AI "cheated" (took an action that should not have been possible by the rules the player needs to follow), please post as much info as possible about it here (screenshots, saves leading up to the action, save showing the action) and a brief description of WHY you think the AI shouldn't have been able to do it.
Some ground rules to make sure this thread doesn't get shut down:
THIS THREAD IS NOT A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT SUCH AI ACTIONS OR GOOD OR BAD FOR THE GAME!! We're only looking for evidence of whether or not this is happening.
ALL DISCUSSIONS WILL BE CIVIL AND FACT BASED!!! If you can show how an action is in accordance with the same rules the player follows, do so. Speculation is not proof, so don't defend it as if it is. These statements apply the same to anyone who is claiming that "cheating" happened. I'll rely on the mods to take appropriate action for anyone personally attacking another poster.
IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANOTHER POSTER'S ANALYSIS YOU MUST SPECIFICALLY STATE THE REASONS WHY!!! If a poster says "this is cheating because of X,Y and Z", then the appropriate response is "It's not cheating because X is really B and Z is really Q." NOT "it's not the games fault you don't know how the rules work." (SEE ABOVE). If a poser says "It's not cheating because of X,Y and Z" the appropriate response is "X doesn't apply in this case and the AI doesn't have access to Z" NOT "You don't get it. Come back when your reading comprehension skills are better."
TESTING YOUR STATEMENT AGAINST POSTED SAVE FILES IS OPTIONAL, BUT WILL ADD TONS OF CREDIBILITY TO YOUR STATEMENTS.
Once again this is not a thread for whining and complaining about how this makes the game impossible. I personally think that the AI does "cheat" but it's just one more obstacle to get past, like a bad map roll or an inopportune natural disaster. This is also not a thread for telling other players that they're just "not good enough". If the AI is doing things that they shouldn't be able to, then the player base should know about it and be able to react accordingly.
Looking forward to the comments and discussion.