Do you regenerate?

[KMadCandy]

BudHinJewism's honest truth, this is from a game i started 5 minutes ago. yes that's my settler on the southern blue circle and qin's on the northern one. i hit regenerate. i think he might have too in that case.

 

[Sisiutil]

but i'm not good at warmongering early! pardon me as i pause to let y'all laugh hysterically at the thought of pre-coal being early.

i'm oh so proud of myself for wiping out my alex when he had 3 cities and monty when he had only 4 in one recent game, and hatty before she had a third city in another game. i'm learning! but still, my tendency is build up far-too-lovely cities, get (over-)ready as far as military, and THEN conquer my selected victim without ever taking a peace break, which can lead to map issues.

"Map issues"? I feel obliged to point out Dr. EJ's words of wisdom, highlighted in my sig...

 

[KMadCandy]

welllllllll i tend to really really overestimate how "few i need. like by a lot. i make way too many of whatever (not always axemen of course) and then go at 'em and realize "wow, i didn't lose like even 25% as many as i thought i was gonna. sheesh."

so, when i just KNOW i'd go insane over something like that, IF by then i have not conquered enough of the world to have at least one of every strategic resource, i have hubby pop it in for insurance.

 

[jimbob27]

BudHinJewism's honest truth, this is from a game i started 5 minutes ago. yes that's my settler on the southern blue circle and qin's on the northern one. i hit regenerate. i think he might have too in that case.

Thats an amazing start! The close starts are soooooo easy to get into a good position from. If you'd actually played it you would have realised.

You've got a sea resource, a plains hill and a couple of forests. Thats all you need to get a few archers together, and to go and take that other city. Once that's done, you'll have 2 cities with capital city resources, and you'll have double the expansion room, because there will be no other civs nearby.

If you're extremely unlucky, he might declare war and kill you with his warrior, but I've never seen that happen, and if it does, you'll have only played for 5 minutes and can regenerate anyway.

 

[Sisiutil]

Try my Axeman formula for pre-construction-and-catapults conquering:

Go visit your target's nearest cities (of course you have Open Borders, giving him a false sense of security, right?). If the ones you want are at a 20% cultural defense or lower and defended by Archers, bring 2 times the number of Axemen to his Archers. If the cultural defense is 40% or 60%, bring 3 times. Give all the Axes City Raider promotions, except one or two with Combat I and Shock for stack and captured city defense.

Works like a charm unless you get a string of really bad luck.

 

[KMadCandy]

Thats an amazing start! The close starts are soooooo easy to get into a good position from. If you'd actually played it you would have realised.

You've got a sea resource, a plains hill and a couple of forests. Thats all you need to get a few archers together, and to go and take that other city. Once that's done, you'll have 2 cities with capital city resources, and you'll have double the expansion room, because there will be no other civs nearby.

If you're extremely unlucky, he might declare war and kill you with his warrior, but I've never seen that happen, and if it does, you'll have only played for 5 minutes and can regenerate anyway.

i did save it, under the name "yeahright" or something, since i figure one day i might want to go back and see how quick he kicked my butt. maybe you're right tho and i could kick his ... hmmmmz

 

[gdgrimm]

Thats an amazing start! The close starts are soooooo easy to get into a good position from. If you'd actually played it you would have realised.

You've got a sea resource, a plains hill and a couple of forests. Thats all you need to get a few archers together, and to go and take that other city. Once that's done, you'll have 2 cities with capital city resources, and you'll have double the expansion room, because there will be no other civs nearby.

If you're extremely unlucky, he might declare war and kill you with his warrior, but I've never seen that happen, and if it does, you'll have only played for 5 minutes and can regenerate anyway.

Actually, it may be easier than that, depending on what level of difficulty is being played. I think that on Prince and lower, the following is true...

If the AI starts with only 1 explorer and no defenders (or less), it will send it out scouting. This means you can sometimes declare war, and walk right into their capital without a fight.

I had this happen once when the RNG gods rolled me a Duel map against the Romans. The game was over (Conquest victory) before my capital had it's second culture pop.

 

[KMadCandy]

you guys were right lmao!

i'm glad i read this in time to rename the autosave to keep it and try. this is a noble game on pangaea with more civs than i usually have (trying to learn politics).

sadly, since he was on a forest tile across a river i couldn't attack him at the 'warrior and settler' together stage to get a free worker, but i did go ahead and settle (my first game as churchill, he starts with fishing so the 2 clams (and the fish in eventual BFC) are tastier than i'd realized. DOWd, he did send his warrior off, i walked right into Beijing in 3920 and got myself 4 gold and a rival dead! as gdgrimm pointed out, that's one less civ i have to compete with for space (and deal with diplomatically...before he even had a chance to pick a worst enemy i think!).

futzing with it in WB to take away his forst tile and river for defense, i got lucky on a 50% chance and got the free worker. boy wouldn't that have been sweet.

i'm not going to play it through atm, i'm having too much fun in my current game. but i'm saving this one, and someday i'll play it, and try jimbob 27's idea of letting him (think he's going to) get himself established to at least 2 pop, and ending up with 2 capital-level BFCs. there'll be more overlap than i usually like, but big whoop, well worth the benefits i'd gain, yummmm. actually, the WB less-defense-for-him check showed that he doesn't have any resources in his BFC other than those we can see and a corn 2E of my settler that would be in my own BFC anyway. that's as far as i peeked, just enough to change those tiles for a 'gosh what if' feeling, i love discovering the map and didn't want to spoil that part. i do want the joy of a Beijing as a city on my F1 list that early. i'd not even rename it (i usually rename ever city i ever make/capture).

thanks guys! does it show that i'm not real brave without encouragement? i learn something new every day.

and look look Sisiutil! i solved a 'map problem' even before axemen! /flex

 

[Welnic]

I regenerate if I am doing something specific like an OCC and I don't like what I see. In an OCC I hate wasting those 4th and 5th border pops on the ocean.

 

[br_casino]

I've spent over 30 minutes searching maps.

Sheesh, why not just us the WB to get what you are looking for everytime; you'd save some time. I always play where everything is random (except the game speed) no restarting. The challenge is part of the fun.

 

[Sisiutil]

Going by the poll results, the sometimers win, followed by the Klingons and optimizers in a dead heat, with regenerators anonymous bringing up the rear...