Edward Snowden TV interview from 2014-01-26

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This is the whole 30 minute raw footage and not the bits and dribbles that made it to various news sites.
Due to copyright bullcrap the official versions of the video are only accessible to viewers with a german IP and region free reuploads will continuously be taken down.

But this Vimeo link should work outside of Germany: http://vimeo.com/85155619

Official Youtube video:

Link to video.

Original source: http://www.ndr.de/ratgeber/netzwelt/snowden271.html
 

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It's also standard OT practice to include a summary in the OP because not everyone posts from a place where they have audio and/or the time to listen to it.

Here's a link to The Guardian's summary.

Reuters in Berlin said:
Edward Snowden tells German TV that NSA is involved in industrial espionage

The National Security Agency is involved in industrial espionage and will take intelligence regardless of its value to national security, the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden has told a German television network.

In a lengthy interview broadcast on the public broadcaster ARD TV on Sunday, Snowden said the NSA did not limit its espionage to issues of national security and cited the German engineering firm Siemens as one target.

“If there's information at Siemens that's beneficial to US national interests – even if it doesn't have anything to do with national security – then they'll take that information nevertheless,” Snowden said in the interview conducted in Russia, where Snowden has claimed asylum.

Snowden also told the German public broadcasting network he no longer had possession of any documents or information on NSA activities and had turned everything over to select journalists. He said he did not have any control over the publication of the information.

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So it looks like Eddie Snowjob is talking mostly about industrial espionage in this interview.
 
Antilogic said:
It's also standard OT practice to include a summary in the OP because not everyone posts from a place where they have audio and/or the time to listen to it.
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There is also two additionnal very good reasons :
- Not everyone wants to spend 30 mn to listen to a video.
- Not everyone is a native speaker - reading is several scales easier than listening.
 
Antilogic said:
So it looks like Eddie Snowjob is talking mostly about industrial espionage in this interview.
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if that's all what you get out of the summary then reading that was a waste of time. Better delete it for everyone's sake.


Watch the Snowden interview because you are interested in what he has to say, and make up your opinion then.
Better than just chalking it up as oh-him-again.

However, I acknowledge that americans are not used to listening to meaningful speech longer than mainstream media soundbites anymore.
 
Thanks for posting! Certainly worth watching. Found Snowden in better shape than the interviewer though, but better that than the other way around. ;)
 
Akka said:
There is also two additionnal very good reasons :
- Not everyone wants to spend 30 mn to listen to a video.
- Not everyone is a native speaker - reading is several scales easier than listening.
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Yup, those are good as well.

Aroddo said:
if that's all what you get out of the summary then the reading that it was a waste of time. Better delete it for everyone's sake.


Watch the Snowden interview because you are interested in what he has to say, and make up your opinion then.
Better than just chalking it up as oh-him-again.

However, I acknowledge that americans are not used to listening to meaningful speech longer than mainstream media soundbites anymore.
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Hmm, so since you watched the Snowjob interview, can you tell us your opinion on it instead of snidely insulting everyone? Because you haven't done that at all in your own thread.

For what it's worth, my post here was a subscription post because I cannot watch a half-hour interview while at work (but I can sneak some posting in). I also give people nicknames for a variety of reasons, don't read too much into that.
 
Aroddo said:
if that's all what you get out of the summary then the reading that it was a waste of time. Better delete it for everyone's sake.

Watch the Snowden interview because you are interested in what he has to say, and make up your opinion then.
Better than just chalking it up as oh-him-again.

However, I acknowledge that americans are not used to listening to meaningful speech longer than mainstream media soundbites anymore.
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Why do you feel the need to be an ass? Accommodating other people would take you 5 minutes.
 
Antilogic said:
Hmm, so since you watched the Snowjob interview, can you tell us your opinion on it instead of snidely insulting everyone? Because you haven't done that at all in your own thread.
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My opinion after this interview is that Snowden is eloquent, thoughtful and still in a sense patriotic. "In a sense" meaning that he actually cares for his country and not just his country's face. He answers the polemic from US politicians and pundits with reason and tells us what drove him to do what he did. He also made a very concise and pointed comment about doing the right thing versus the lawful thing.
He is actually quite a contrast to the various pictures the media (US and non-US) has painted of him. But you can only see that by yourself if you watch him talk and compare with whatever image of him is in your head.

Antilogic said:
For what it's worth, my post here was a subscription post because I cannot watch a half-hour interview while at work (but I can sneak some posting in). I also gives people nicknames for a variety of reasons, don't read too much into that.
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Well, the video is not going to run away ... on vimeo at least. So just watch it when you have time. Preferably not at work. You shouldn't even browse the civ forums while at work, honestly, let alone use the company PC for anything not work related. Unless you are self-employed, of course.
 
bhsup said:
"I'm a traitor. America sucks, so I won't be going back."
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More like: "My organization violated our own laws and then my boss lied to congress about it under oath. Rule-of-the-people is in the process of being abolished and bringing proof about it to the courts would actually be against the current laws. "

What would you do if you uncovered a crime against the american people while knowing that going public would earn you a secret trial by the very people comitting the crimes?
 
Aroddo said:
More like: "My organization violated our own laws and then my boss lied to congress about it under oath. Rule-of-the-people is in the process of being abolished and bringing proof about it to the courts would actually be against the current laws. "

What would you do if you uncovered a crime against the american people while knowing that going public would earn you a secret trial by the very people comitting the crimes?
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If you're curious why I think the way I do about him, read this. Also post above it that I was replying to for context.
 
bhsup said:
If you're curious why I think the way I do about him, read this.
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I feel dumber now that I read this garbage :-/
The parable is idiotic in the extreme and the comparison doesn't make any shred of sense.
And it's just a way to mix up the face with the actual honour, which is the favourite passtime of the extremists for a reason.
 
Aroddo said:
He is actually quite a contrast to the various pictures the media (US and non-US) has painted of him. But you can only see that by yourself if you watch him talk and compare with whatever image of him is in your head.
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That is how I perceived it as well. No wonder Snowden has had no real problem getting Russia and other governments to block the efforts to silence him.
 
Akka said:
I feel dumber now that I read this garbage :-/
The parable is idiotic in the extreme and the comparison doesn't make any shred of sense.
And it's just a way to mix up the face with the actual honour, which is the favourite passtime of the extremists for a reason.
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Okay, how about a Benedict Arnold comparison since you can't seem to grasp (is that why you feel dumber??) that I wasn't accusing him of rape and murder, but rather just trying to show how one good act does not excuse and override a later performed bad act.

Arnold, had he died right after the Battle of Saratoga, would probably be revered in American history right alongside Washington and others. But he's not known for that. He's known for betraying his country. Why? Because regardless of what happened at Saratoga, it doesn't excuse him being a traitor and selling out his country to the British.
 
How did Snowden betray his country? He leaked the information to the public, not to another country or government. He would not be tried for espionage because he's not a spy, he would be tried for mishandling classified information.

He fled overseas because of that, because the law in his country is immoral. You're insane if you think someone should turn themselves over to a government they think is immoral and just thoroughly embarrassed.

Literally the only way this "hurts" you is if you think the US government and the US people are the same thing, and that what hurts the government hurts us too. But being a paleoconservative and not a Fascist, you don't think that, you think the government is empowered by the people with a very limited mandate on that power, a power they grossly violated and the abuse of which Snowden exposed. This was his crime.

We should all be thankful such "criminals" and "traitors" exist.
 
bhsup said:
Okay, how about a Benedict Arnold comparison since you can't seem to grasp (is that why you feel dumber??) that I wasn't accusing him of rape and murder, but rather just trying to show how one good act does not excuse and override a later performed bad act.

Arnold, had he died right after the Battle of Saratoga, would probably be revered in American history right alongside Washington and others. But he's not known for that. He's known for betraying his country. Why? Because regardless of what happened at Saratoga, it doesn't excuse him being a traitor and selling out his country to the British.
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Seems you're the one who can't seem to grasp that whistleblowing is the very OPPOSITE of treason.
Denouncing unethical practices by your country is probably the MOST patriotic thing you can ever get.

Tainting your country by commiting crimes in its name is a disservice, trying to clean it up is a service. You have it all completely mixed it seem.
You just look like these japanese ultra-nationalist who consider that the honour of their army is insulted when people speak about the truth of its war crime in WW2, rather than realizing that the honour was lost when the acts were COMMITED (and not when they were PUBLISHED).
 
Haven't watched the whole thing yet, but I did get to the 7 minute mark. I found it really important that he decided to go public after seeing the guy in charge of his agency lie to congress under oath.

That, I think, should be a reminder to all people in positions of power: The people that work for you have brains, too. And they know how to use them.

I really wonder how all this would have gone down if Alexander and Clapper hadn't lied to Congress - if they had not tried to reply with "the least untrue answer". I wonder if most of this would still be a secret.
 
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