Elepults vs Axapults when you have both copper and ivory

[cseanny]

I'm sure everyone has different opinions and ideas how the game should be played, myself included. I happen to think Marathon is broken and imo that is where someone might have been offended, not HoF comments. After all, a 1 cow start vs a HoF start gives you the same exact thing - a map in which the player has to maximize in order to produce the best results.

To be fair, I don't feel like I've "provoked" anyone, which is what Fippy and Rusten seems to be saying. Giving an accurate and factual example defending your statement does nothing more than prove your initial statement. I'd add that my tone and verbiage has been consistent with someone trying to engage in a civil manner and geared at expressing my opinions. Nothing else. My tone hasn't dipped negatively nor have I called anyone names or Trolls (which is certainly aimed at provoking).

On the bright side it appears CiV hasn't quite died . Some discussion is nice although it seems we have veered way way way off topic.

 

[nate46]

Regarding elephants and axes you can of course build axes while researching construction, build cats while researching HbR, start with axepult and replace dead axes with elephants once HbR is in.

is this worth it though? my econ always goes to crap if i don't tech currency ASAP after rushing.

 

[civfanchambers]

is this worth it though? my econ always goes to crap if i don't tech currency ASAP after rushing.

In my experience possessing 5 cities is the maximum magic number without currency. Any more and your maintenance destroys your economy.

 

[Fippy]

There are other ways than currency for creating gold
Imo the most overrated tech in Civ4, yep it's good but nowhere near as great (for self-teching esp.) as it's reputation.

 

[elmurcis]

GLH and 3 oversea cities allow 10 early cities without Currency. I can go Construction+HBR 1st without problem and have big empire that can build many units fast Reason I play water maps and never feel bad about it as much as others play Pangae etc. stuff Everybody will have personal favorite settings where he/she will show best results On Huge/17 AI sometimes its possible to get early land for 16 cities (~5% of total land) without any need for war even with all strategic resources. And I skip wars, leaving archer/warrior per city and just reading diplo situation to avoid unexpected SoD.
1 tip I found some time ago about this.. If I know civ A (let say Isabella) and civ B (Genghis), both know civ C (Mansa) but I don't know civ C, if Civ A (for example) is worst enemy of civ C or is at war with civ C, I can see that if I click on Civ B icon (on F4 relations screen) and hover over civ A icon. That has saved me from many games since that time I can finally enjoy Deity level