England with no sea?

[salacious.]

Seems everytime I start a new game and play as England, I never placed near the sea or any where close to a sea. I am wondering, since there only added bonus is +2 to naval movement - if when placed in this type of scenario if they are any good to play, until you manage to build a port city, or if i should scrap the game and try again.

I am always placed in marshes or jungles >_>

 

[DemonMaster]

I have managed to start "inland" with a "sea-based" civ twice (what I can remember).
One time it was the Ottomans, but the coast was only "one" city away.
The other time it was Korea. This time I had a coast, but to large lake (more correctly, closed sea), some 10-15 hexes across. I reached the real ocean by take over a CS that was acting like a big canal. Fun map.

I guess, you been playing on wrong map types and/or you have been unlucky. Besides Archipelago, try Fractal (under advanced settings).

 

[salacious.]

Ok cause I play, Huge, Marathon in Temerate temparatures with average rain fall and always get slammed in a marsh.... >_> and usually next to russia - miss "expand too much"

 

[Pisskop]

So help her stay slim and trim by taking some extra land from her. Just expand until you hit ocean.

 

[salacious.]

thats what I thought to do. and trust me I do. She expands way to fast......like way way to fat, I hope this expansion fixes that.

 

[Pisskop]

There are benifits to a tight formation of cities... just like in CIV, where you could overlap fat crosses to work the same tiles through multiple cities...

 

[rw42]

Did you try to play with the disable start up bias option? Might be worth trying.

 

[joncnunn]

Well, a lot depends upon what map type your playing.

But in general, you have the highest chance of starting on the coast among the standard map types on archepello (100%), then continental (most of the time), and last pangena/earth (less than half the time).

Also a larger pangena/earth map also reduces chance of a coastal start.

 

[ense7en]

I wouldn't suggest turning off their start bias as that'll reduce the chances of coastal starts.

I'd say reroll a few times if you are wanting a certain type of start...should get a decent coastal start eventually.

Playing small continents/archipelago/tiny islands is great with England IMHO.