Espionage symbol question
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madscientist
RPC Supergenius
It means you can view the demagraphics of that AI. You have reached the required # or espionage points for the passive mission. No spy needed.
madscientist
RPC Supergenius
It means you can view the demagraphics of that AI. You have reached the required number or espionage points for the passive mission. No spy needed.
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Rabbit, White
Guest
The "percentage in the espionage screen after every leader" is the cost of espionage missions against that leader. So yes, if the espionage cost is lower, then that means you have more espionage points than that leader.
And vanharjc is right about the EP symbol - it just means that you have an espionage advantage over that leader. Although that could mean anything from you being able to see his/her research, or you can see inside each city they have.
And vanharjc is right about the EP symbol - it just means that you have an espionage advantage over that leader. Although that could mean anything from you being able to see his/her research, or you can see inside each city they have.
Looking at this screen it would seem to be that but why is it at 111%? Shouldnt I be below 100%?
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Incorrect. It simply means you have more espionage points (EPs) than that civ. Hover over the name and you will see a ratio. The first number is their amount of points, the second number is your amount of points. If the ratio is in your favor the icon is present, indicating that you are "besting" them when it comes to espionage at that time.
(This does not mean, however, that you have more gold allocated to espionage at that time. It's possible that that civ could over-take you on the next turn, if they are spending more than you.)
To see how many EPs you need for passive missions, you have to go into the espionage screen (Ctrl+E) and click the appropriate civ's leaderhead on the left. You can then see how many EPs you would need, at that time, to benefit from passive missions. If you have a spy in their territory you will also see the cost for active missions.
Note that these costs will change over time depending on how much your rival is spending, and how long your spy has been in position (for active missions.) It's also possible, of course, that your costs could triple if the enemy performs a counter-espionage mission in your territory.
If you look at my screenshot a few posts up, you will see the ratio is 77/82
You will see their points are 77 while mine are 82 which means I have more points, right? They have a symbol by their name in the lower right
I am confused!
Thx
jonpfl
If you look at the screenshot, you will see the points are 77/82. From reading your post, you said my points come first so that means I have 77 and they have 82.
Also, the screenshot shows them as having 111% which leads me to believe I am behind them in points.
If all of this is true, why is that espionage symbol on the screen for him? I am behind them in points, right?
Thx
jonpfl
Also, the screenshot shows them as having 111% which leads me to believe I am behind them in points.
If all of this is true, why is that espionage symbol on the screen for him? I am behind them in points, right?
Thx
jonpfl
You're lagging behind Augustus in EP, so the ratio is 111% - it means that you have to pay more for espionage missions. If you invest more EP in him, then ratio will go below 100% and you will get discount when performing espionage missions.
About the symbol - I don't know. Maybe it indicates that you have less points invested in him, so you should be carefull about his spies acting in your state?
About the symbol - I don't know. Maybe it indicates that you have less points invested in him, so you should be carefull about his spies acting in your state?
Brutus2
King
Leaving a spy sitting in another civ's city for a few turns will lower the costs??
JZ Temple
Chieftain
Yes, it's true. However, it's also more likely to get discovered by the enemy counter-espionage. Makes for an interesting decision point.
_alphaBeta_
King
This is exactly the problem I'm seeing. InFlux5 said (correctly I think) that the first number is how many points they have and the second is how many you have. It looks like jonpfl has more EPs than the Romans so why does it cost over 100% to conduct missions against them? It should be the other way around, no?
agoodfella
Prince
as a side note, i wish the buttons at the top right corner (science, military, civics, etc.) would stay in order -- in other words, the Spy summary button should come BEFORE Victory Conditions and Info Screen ... small gripe I know but I it seems like they stuck in the end there.
Explanation:
Spy symbol - you have more points invested in your opponent than he has in you
Percentage in the espionage screen - if the percentage is bigger than 100%, the opponent has produced more (total) amount of spy points than you. you can check this in the statistics screen.
Spy symbol - you have more points invested in your opponent than he has in you
Percentage in the espionage screen - if the percentage is bigger than 100%, the opponent has produced more (total) amount of spy points than you. you can check this in the statistics screen.
Spy symbol, I think, means you are CURRENTLY INVESTING more in espionage than your opponent. Just trying to clarify.
Percentage on the espionage screen: if bigger than 100%, your opponent's TOTAL INVESTED SO FAR is more than yours. For example, you have put 1,000 total into spying for the entire game so far, but he has put 1,500.
Conversely, you may currently be allocating 50/turn in spy points toward him, but he is only allocating 25. Hence, you get the spy symbol on the main screen next to his name.
I think this is a key difference to understand. But correct me if I'm wrong on this. It seems that I've seen the symbol next to opponents on the main screen, but on the espionage screen my missions will cost 100%+
