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Who knew that there was a limit to the number of characters in a CFC post title? Not me, until I tried to make this one. So, I took a page from Jimmy McMillan and used a number instead of a word.
At the conclusion of the previous session, the Ottomans had recently modernized, and were in a war with Portugal, likely a war of opportunism while Ottoman stability was low. In connection with this, there was a brief phony war with Austria, so that Austria could keep their Portuguese alliance. This would prove to be an important fact later on.
The Portuguese-Ottoman war would prove uneventful, aside from Portugal's navy suffering at the hands of Burgundy, and would end relatively soon. And so, the next couple years followed in relative peace as well. All was calm... but it was the calm before the storm.
In late 1715, a contingent of 74,000 or so Austrians was spotted in Burgundy, heading towards British Brittany. It didn't take a genius to figure out that this meant war was on the horizon. Normally, Austria may have been faced with an Ottoman invasion, but the truce was still in effect for another 18 months, and further complicating matters, the Ottoman position was still shaky due to recovery from military modernization. As such, Austria had a primarily-unfettered war.
And so it was that the war by many names began. Austria finds the name The Austrian-British Colonial Duel of Epicness (ABCDE) to be fitting. The obvious caveat is that, while colonialism was ostensibly the casus belli, Scotland and northern England can hardly be considered British colonies. And so it was that Austria landed troops in northern Scotland almost as soon as the war began. Britain pulled their troops in Brittany back to the mainland, and was already enlarging their forces, helped by Ottoman gold arriving by the boatload.
Due to Austria's impressive navy - consisting of no fewer than 70 transports, and estimated to have more capital ships than that - the long-term outcome was already highly likely. Despite this, Britain put up a dogged fight on the ground, making Austria's advance much slower than it would have been in the previous war in the early 1680's. A great many regiments were raised from the countryside, and the improved forts helped as well (although Austria had bypassed the best forts, in southern England). Pure numbers, however, dictated that Austria continued to advance.
By May, 1717, the Ottoman-Austrian truce was nearly expired, but likewise, so was the British Army nearly defeated. The Ottoman position, stability-wise, was still rather poor, and Scotland and northern England, as well as British South America, were occupied. However, it was clear to all sides that the end of the truce would mean an Ottoman invasion of Austria, and an attempt to turn the tide of war. Though not a good situation for the Ottomans, neither was it desirable for Austria - both sides remembered how painful the previous war was all too well. As such, negotiations began.
Austria's trump card was that if no agreements were reached, they would stabhit Britain to -3, then forcing a release of England. This, clearly, would be devastating. Although the Ottomans reckoned that such a fate could be avoided, it was uncertain. Even if it could be avoided, the war would be difficult at best. Austria followed up with a king, their army of half a million men, primarily in Europe. The Ottomans elected not to reveal their cards, only going so far as to be clear that they weren't convinced Austria's would win them the war. However, it was clear that another Great War would be devastating to both sides, and neither side really wanted that.
As such, Austria made an offer that, while clearly signifying that they had won, was considerably less harsh than it could have been. Britain would cede two South American colonies, as well as Northumberland and Cumbria, creating an Austrian belt just south of Scotland. Although not a popular deal with Britain, it was weighed that continued resistence, primarily by the Ottomans, was unlikely to yield a significantly better deal for Britain in the short or medium term, and though it may over the long term, that would also result in all three powers suffering tremendously.
Austria also insisted that a phony war be initiated with the Ottomans, to ensure that no war on that front would begin in the next five years. Though the Ottomans were not thrilled with this, the condition was agreed to, with the goal that in five years' time the Ottomans would be in a much better internal condition as well.
And so, peace was agreed to. Though the negotiations had been lengthy, the diplomats were pleased to secure peace for our time, and to avoid a second world war. Britain could rebuild at home, the Ottomans could continue to improve the internal situation, and Austria could be secure in knowing the Hungarian lands would be safe for another five years.
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Outside of this war, the turn was largely calm. Burgundy and Mazovia did little of note, though the economy of both continued to strengthen, and Burgundy's technological prowess keeps going strong. Spain fought an ill-advised and quite unsuccessful war for Grenada, resulting only in rebellions in their lands. Swahili sort-of successfully revolted from the Ottomans, as Oman reached their lands first and annexed them... this probably bodes poorly for Ottoman-Omani relations long-term. And a country that I, for one, had never seen in EU3 - Tonkin - revolted from Qin, before being conquered by Wu.
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At the conclusion of the previous session, the Ottomans had recently modernized, and were in a war with Portugal, likely a war of opportunism while Ottoman stability was low. In connection with this, there was a brief phony war with Austria, so that Austria could keep their Portuguese alliance. This would prove to be an important fact later on.
The Portuguese-Ottoman war would prove uneventful, aside from Portugal's navy suffering at the hands of Burgundy, and would end relatively soon. And so, the next couple years followed in relative peace as well. All was calm... but it was the calm before the storm.
In late 1715, a contingent of 74,000 or so Austrians was spotted in Burgundy, heading towards British Brittany. It didn't take a genius to figure out that this meant war was on the horizon. Normally, Austria may have been faced with an Ottoman invasion, but the truce was still in effect for another 18 months, and further complicating matters, the Ottoman position was still shaky due to recovery from military modernization. As such, Austria had a primarily-unfettered war.
And so it was that the war by many names began. Austria finds the name The Austrian-British Colonial Duel of Epicness (ABCDE) to be fitting. The obvious caveat is that, while colonialism was ostensibly the casus belli, Scotland and northern England can hardly be considered British colonies. And so it was that Austria landed troops in northern Scotland almost as soon as the war began. Britain pulled their troops in Brittany back to the mainland, and was already enlarging their forces, helped by Ottoman gold arriving by the boatload.
Due to Austria's impressive navy - consisting of no fewer than 70 transports, and estimated to have more capital ships than that - the long-term outcome was already highly likely. Despite this, Britain put up a dogged fight on the ground, making Austria's advance much slower than it would have been in the previous war in the early 1680's. A great many regiments were raised from the countryside, and the improved forts helped as well (although Austria had bypassed the best forts, in southern England). Pure numbers, however, dictated that Austria continued to advance.
By May, 1717, the Ottoman-Austrian truce was nearly expired, but likewise, so was the British Army nearly defeated. The Ottoman position, stability-wise, was still rather poor, and Scotland and northern England, as well as British South America, were occupied. However, it was clear to all sides that the end of the truce would mean an Ottoman invasion of Austria, and an attempt to turn the tide of war. Though not a good situation for the Ottomans, neither was it desirable for Austria - both sides remembered how painful the previous war was all too well. As such, negotiations began.
Austria's trump card was that if no agreements were reached, they would stabhit Britain to -3, then forcing a release of England. This, clearly, would be devastating. Although the Ottomans reckoned that such a fate could be avoided, it was uncertain. Even if it could be avoided, the war would be difficult at best. Austria followed up with a king, their army of half a million men, primarily in Europe. The Ottomans elected not to reveal their cards, only going so far as to be clear that they weren't convinced Austria's would win them the war. However, it was clear that another Great War would be devastating to both sides, and neither side really wanted that.
As such, Austria made an offer that, while clearly signifying that they had won, was considerably less harsh than it could have been. Britain would cede two South American colonies, as well as Northumberland and Cumbria, creating an Austrian belt just south of Scotland. Although not a popular deal with Britain, it was weighed that continued resistence, primarily by the Ottomans, was unlikely to yield a significantly better deal for Britain in the short or medium term, and though it may over the long term, that would also result in all three powers suffering tremendously.
Austria also insisted that a phony war be initiated with the Ottomans, to ensure that no war on that front would begin in the next five years. Though the Ottomans were not thrilled with this, the condition was agreed to, with the goal that in five years' time the Ottomans would be in a much better internal condition as well.
And so, peace was agreed to. Though the negotiations had been lengthy, the diplomats were pleased to secure peace for our time, and to avoid a second world war. Britain could rebuild at home, the Ottomans could continue to improve the internal situation, and Austria could be secure in knowing the Hungarian lands would be safe for another five years.
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Outside of this war, the turn was largely calm. Burgundy and Mazovia did little of note, though the economy of both continued to strengthen, and Burgundy's technological prowess keeps going strong. Spain fought an ill-advised and quite unsuccessful war for Grenada, resulting only in rebellions in their lands. Swahili sort-of successfully revolted from the Ottomans, as Oman reached their lands first and annexed them... this probably bodes poorly for Ottoman-Omani relations long-term. And a country that I, for one, had never seen in EU3 - Tonkin - revolted from Qin, before being conquered by Wu.
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Note about the next session: Daylight Savings Time will begin in the following areas tomorrow:
- Most of Canada
- Most of the United States
As such, we will be playing the game on Daylight Savings Time. According to Wikipedia, we spring forward at 2:00 AM tomorrow, which means the game will in effect start one hour earlier than it would otherwise. In other words, we will start at 2:00 PM EDT, not 2:00 PM EST.
The following locations will not be on Daylight Savings Time. In other words, you will be on "slow time". If you live in one of these areas, you will be joining the game at an hour earlier local time than you typically do:
- Hawaii
- Most of Arizona
- Midway Islands
- Wake Islands
- Part of Alaska
- The greater part of Saskatchewan
- Small parts of British Columbia, Nunavut, Quebec, and Ontario
Amazingly, the entire state of Indiana is united in observing Daylight Savings Time - all counties in Indiana observe it. Please consult your local expert as to which time zone you are in.
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If those who know they can or cannot attend could RSVP, that'd be great. And it'd be really fantastic if all five regular participants were able to make it.
New players might find interest in the opportunities in New World Spain, or possibly Old World Castille. You could also join us tomorrow and select from the more slim pickings elsewhere.
- Most of Canada
- Most of the United States
As such, we will be playing the game on Daylight Savings Time. According to Wikipedia, we spring forward at 2:00 AM tomorrow, which means the game will in effect start one hour earlier than it would otherwise. In other words, we will start at 2:00 PM EDT, not 2:00 PM EST.
The following locations will not be on Daylight Savings Time. In other words, you will be on "slow time". If you live in one of these areas, you will be joining the game at an hour earlier local time than you typically do:
- Hawaii
- Most of Arizona
- Midway Islands
- Wake Islands
- Part of Alaska
- The greater part of Saskatchewan
- Small parts of British Columbia, Nunavut, Quebec, and Ontario
Amazingly, the entire state of Indiana is united in observing Daylight Savings Time - all counties in Indiana observe it. Please consult your local expert as to which time zone you are in.
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If those who know they can or cannot attend could RSVP, that'd be great. And it'd be really fantastic if all five regular participants were able to make it.
New players might find interest in the opportunities in New World Spain, or possibly Old World Castille. You could also join us tomorrow and select from the more slim pickings elsewhere.
. Sorry about that.
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At the conclusion of the last session, no one really expected peace to last beyond the mandatory truce that would end in the middle of June, 1722. Not Britain, not Austria, not the Ottomans, either. Britain was understandably unhappy with the peace, the Ottomans took the previous war as a sign of aggressive intentions from Austria, and Austria realized this and expected an effort to reverse the result of the previous war.
And yet... June 1722 came and went without any major declarations of war. To be sure, there was a crisis, in France. We'll get into that later. But a catacylsmic struggle like that of 1680 did not come to be.
World Map (sorry, forgot to get one of just the players):
The session began with a bit over two years of guaranteed peace. Britain and Austria were both still recovering from the previous struggle, with significant war exhaustion in both, though decreasing more quickly in Britain thanks to a more administratively adept monarch. The Ottomans, having been shut out of the war, did not have such difficulties, but were still working on improving their stability.
The main event of 1722, however, would not be war, but the return of Billy as Burgundy. Not to be satisfied with Burgundy resting on its laurels, work was immediately begun on expanding Burgundy's dominion. A negotiated retreat from most of France, save Caux and Normandy, was made for Great Britain, sped along by a phony war and a couple wars with French minors, including France itself. These account for the significant Burgundian territorial expansions in western and northwestern France this session. Frankfurt also benefitted, being freed from their Hessian masters.
Aside from this, the human powers would maintain peace. Grenzers appeared along the entire Austrian-Ottoman border, ready to scorch the land on either side, but neither had to do so. Britain feared an invasion along the White Belt of Britain, but instead a withdrawal happened, prior to a sale of the provinces to Spain and Castille in a move that has been criticized as gamey, with the clear intend of denying the to Britain rather than fulfilling the centuries-long Spanish and Castillian ambitions for Britain. And though both sides watched each other closely, not a shot was fired.
Mazovia did get involved in some wars. A Ryazani-Mazovian war resulted in Tver and the Orthodox Qasim Khanate being freed from Ryazan. Later, Mazovia would get involved in a brouhaha with Polotsk, as a result fighting Tver and the Qasim Khanate as well, with Pommerania and Norway joining Mazovia. The latter war is still in progress, with the Mazovian side having the advantage.
Farther afield, Songhai's fates continue to fall, with Castille having taken another chunk of land, and Aragon, whose capital is now in Benin, in a war for Songhaian land currently. Wu is also in trouble, saved from Qin only due to the latter's inability to secure rights of passage to finish off their foe.
And perhaps most unusual of all is the situation in Japan, particularly Fujiwara. The state recently converted to Catholicism, despite its sizeable number of Hindu believers (and yes, a few Shinto yet as well), triggering widespread revolutionary revolts. Catholic Champa still controls three Japanese provinces (now cored, and one of which is Shinto), while one Tairan province is now Confucian. To top it off, two-thirds of Ottoman-colonized Hokkaido is Sunni. Take a look at the confusion below, and remember, religious wars are oh so pleasant!
And yet... June 1722 came and went without any major declarations of war. To be sure, there was a crisis, in France. We'll get into that later. But a catacylsmic struggle like that of 1680 did not come to be.
World Map (sorry, forgot to get one of just the players):
Spoiler :
The session began with a bit over two years of guaranteed peace. Britain and Austria were both still recovering from the previous struggle, with significant war exhaustion in both, though decreasing more quickly in Britain thanks to a more administratively adept monarch. The Ottomans, having been shut out of the war, did not have such difficulties, but were still working on improving their stability.
The main event of 1722, however, would not be war, but the return of Billy as Burgundy. Not to be satisfied with Burgundy resting on its laurels, work was immediately begun on expanding Burgundy's dominion. A negotiated retreat from most of France, save Caux and Normandy, was made for Great Britain, sped along by a phony war and a couple wars with French minors, including France itself. These account for the significant Burgundian territorial expansions in western and northwestern France this session. Frankfurt also benefitted, being freed from their Hessian masters.
Aside from this, the human powers would maintain peace. Grenzers appeared along the entire Austrian-Ottoman border, ready to scorch the land on either side, but neither had to do so. Britain feared an invasion along the White Belt of Britain, but instead a withdrawal happened, prior to a sale of the provinces to Spain and Castille in a move that has been criticized as gamey, with the clear intend of denying the to Britain rather than fulfilling the centuries-long Spanish and Castillian ambitions for Britain. And though both sides watched each other closely, not a shot was fired.
Mazovia did get involved in some wars. A Ryazani-Mazovian war resulted in Tver and the Orthodox Qasim Khanate being freed from Ryazan. Later, Mazovia would get involved in a brouhaha with Polotsk, as a result fighting Tver and the Qasim Khanate as well, with Pommerania and Norway joining Mazovia. The latter war is still in progress, with the Mazovian side having the advantage.
Farther afield, Songhai's fates continue to fall, with Castille having taken another chunk of land, and Aragon, whose capital is now in Benin, in a war for Songhaian land currently. Wu is also in trouble, saved from Qin only due to the latter's inability to secure rights of passage to finish off their foe.
And perhaps most unusual of all is the situation in Japan, particularly Fujiwara. The state recently converted to Catholicism, despite its sizeable number of Hindu believers (and yes, a few Shinto yet as well), triggering widespread revolutionary revolts. Catholic Champa still controls three Japanese provinces (now cored, and one of which is Shinto), while one Tairan province is now Confucian. To top it off, two-thirds of Ottoman-colonized Hokkaido is Sunni. Take a look at the confusion below, and remember, religious wars are oh so pleasant!
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Taking attendance for this coming Sunday's game... I do expect to be able to make it.
We stopped playing as soon as Billy/Burgundy left last time, as we desired for Burgundy to have control over their own diplomacy if feasible.
For the following week (March 24th), Turquoiside has already mentioned that he likely will not be able to make it (however he will be this week, on the 17th).
We stopped playing as soon as Billy/Burgundy left last time, as we desired for Burgundy to have control over their own diplomacy if feasible.
For the following week (March 24th), Turquoiside has already mentioned that he likely will not be able to make it (however he will be this week, on the 17th).
MoreEpicThanYou
The most Epic.
I'll be able to make it this weekend.
