Exploiting Calabim Anger

[loocas]

The pedia says that the Pillar of Chains does away with rioting due to anger ("negative effects" was the wording, I think), which is great. Gov's Manor doesn't do this as far as I know. The upshot of both is to compensate for the anger caused by slavery and feasting. Neither do any good for a city with a static population.

 

[rhawn]

The pedia says that the Pillar of Chains does away with rioting due to anger ("negative effects" was the wording, I think), which is great. Gov's Manor doesn't do this as far as I know. The upshot of both is to compensate for the anger caused by slavery and feasting. Neither do any good for a city with a static population.

I believe the wording is "negates effects of civic anger", which would be anger caused by not having republic or ?. Is republic the only thing that causes civic anger? It does give one hammer in the city that founds the wonder, but it doesn't give and additional hammer if you already have a Governor's Manor.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

I think that Liberty may also have the penalty now.

 

[Tarquelne]

I think that Liberty may also have the penalty now.

Is that "CivicPercentAnger"? According to the editor only Republic has a non-zero value.

 

[xienwolf]

That might be how angry your citizens get when someone else is running Republic then. The further your system is from Republic, the madder they get.

 

[Demus]

i always thought the more other civs are running republic, the more angry they get (like emancipation in vanilla)

 

[xienwolf]

I was reading his statement backwards somehow (frazzled on a test right now, I will blame everything on that) and read it as only Republic HAVING a zero value.

It would be mildly interesting if every civic had a value and the anger that you suffered was the difference between your current PercentAnger and that of the highest percentage that any civ you have met is running. Then as other people start to treat their population better and better yours just get madder and madder

 

[dannypytlak]

I am not sure about this, but I believe manor gives you production bonus for every angry citizen, even below a happy cap, at least im my version of FFH2 (Tholals More Naval AI). Don't know about the Pillar though.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

The Pillar of Chains works the same way as the Governor's Manor, and I don't believe the bonuses stack. Having one or both in the same city will still only grant +1 per

It seems wrong to me that the thematically most appropriate civilization gets no real bonus from this wonder, thus in my modmod I give them a UB that grants a free Governor's manor in every city.

 

[Pickly]

This was a necroed thread, so it seems the mechanics have changed between when it started and now.