Extremists! Stand up and be counted!

As for economical matters, do you consider yourself ...

  • ... communist, anarchist, or otherwise hard left?

    Votes: 17 12.8%
  • ... mainstream left, centre, or right?

    Votes: 72 54.1%
  • ... libertarian or otherwise hard right?

    Votes: 31 23.3%
  • ... exploited by giant radioactive monkeys?

    Votes: 13 9.8%

  • Total voters
    133
I'm left in both method and motive.

But I'll admit that my methods are more libertarian than my motives.

I support the free market not because I believe everyone has an inalienable right to own property, etc. But because it's helps more people than a socialist economics system does (i.e. where the allocation of labor and goods is solely determined by the state).
 
I'm in the 'hard center'. As an example of what I mean by that it is as follows:

1) We should definately have a national health care system (left?)
2) We should limit the spending based upon what we can afford (right?)
3) Make a list of procedures that do the most overall good for society (focused on prevention) based upon a cost analysis; pay only for those procedures that can be afforded
4) If you want more, pay for it yourself.

So everyone would get routine care for sickness as it is relatively cheap for the number of people it helps, but things such as organ transplants, cancer treatment, etc. would probably only be affordable by the rich. If it doesn't make the cut list, sorry bud.
 
HawkeyeGS said:
I would be inclined left a bit because equality is very preferable. Because of the inaccurate connotations associated with the left this does NOT mean I want to form a dictatorship or undermine the country. I think democracy is great. Capitalism has failed to provide the final necessary step in its aim because large companies don't employ all the unemployed. So under capitalism there are still many who miss out while others have way too much money for their needs or abilities and efforts. Just last year the Wiggles (pathetic children entertainers) rolled in AU$50,000,000 for prancing around in flannel shirts. No one has enough talent to be worth 50 million. From an economic view (remember communism is a for of economy not government) communism could work if reasonably well if it had a go in a country that was not past the brink of collapse, was not destroyed twice by 2 seperate world wars, was governed by a democratic government, had sufficent social liberties and was not in a cold war with the other global superpower.
Is making a child happy worth AU$50? Yes. So making a million children happy is worth $50,000,000.

Besides, if someone payed for it without being forced to do so, then ipso facto it was worth it to them.

As for communism...It hasn't worked well anywhere it's been tried, not just the USSR. Lenin wouldn't have come to power if the country hadn't been in a state of collapse, so the first world war isn't relevant, and the country was a disaster area before 1941. Same for the cold war. As for democracy/human rights, this begs the question of whether these are in fact compatible with an economic system totally controlled by the state. Moreover, their presence or absence had little to do with the economic failure.

My own views: hard right on economics (because, as a historian, I have encountered very few examples of successful government intervention in the economy), moderate left in social policy.
 
A'AbarachAmadan said:
So everyone would get routine care for sickness as it is relatively cheap for the number of people it helps, but things such as organ transplants, cancer treatment, etc. would probably only be affordable by the rich. If it doesn't make the cut list, sorry bud.

I find this to be very left wing. The methods are merely about efficiency. If you can help 2 poor kids by spending $1 on penicillin and 1 kid by spending $1 on flu shots, then you're not cold shouldering the kid with the flu just because you choose to spend your money on penicillin. That's not really middle, but leftwing.
 
I lean towards the far right on economic issues, and strongly believe in free trade, free markets etc, and I've only really started thinking like this in the last couple of years. I'm basically a libertarian, which means that there aren't any political parties in the UK whose policies really appeal to me, nowadays they all seem to want to control everything:rolleyes:

It does make being a student interesting though, especially living in a house of Lib Dem voters:p
 
Godwynn said:
I am a libertarian.

I support the hard right! On economic matters only.

Is the hard right in tha hizouse?!

Raise your hard right hand in the
air and wave it like ya just dont care.:)
 
My view on this can be summed up by three words: All Hail Marx!!!
But I voted for the radioactive monkey
 
superisis said:
I find this to be very left wing. The methods are merely about efficiency.

Not just efficiency, but limiting amount. The people I consider to be 'on the left' are those that think everything should be funded regardless, to include significantly increasing the national deficit for it. If I were in charge, we wouldn't be talking about runaway Medicare expendatures because they would be capped and 'less efficient' care would be cut. Of course, many think the program itself is 'on the left'.
 
I don't care about the economic well-being of anyone but myself and a few choice others.

I suppose that puts me in the hard right category.
 
ComradeDavo said:
Flak said:
As far as economic matters are concerned, I'm very capitalist and believe a government should never have any debt, and only have deficits in times of war or other prolonged extreme necessity. I'm actually fairly radical on that latter point.

Just out of curiosity, who do you vote for?

Few if any candidates. No republicans or democrats as they are a combined monopoly that is only interested in maintaining its own monopoly and doesn't care one bit about the future welfare of the country. It's tough sometimes to even find the motivation to vote at all, especially now that I'm living over seas and have kind of lost touch with many of the local issues of where I used to reside.
 
Im hard left: tax their arses off, restrict the market, from each according to his abbility to each according to his needs!!!!!!!!





Glad i got that out
 
The Last Conformist said:
Seems the hard left is regaining some ground ...

... but they're still less than half the hard right.
So much for the leftist bias on this site;)
 
If you are a hard rightist economically and a hard leftist socially, you're still a hard rightist (a libertarian).
 
I am most definitely libertarian. I don't want some wasteful government beaucracy taking my money and giving it to some trailer trash scum living in Alabama. Its my money and I'll do what I damn well please with it. If I want to go out and spend it on hookers thats what I'll do with it and if I actually feel like giving some money to stupid lazy fat people then thats what I'll do with it.

On social issues though I tend to be more liberal.
 
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