ShiplordAtvar
Texan by the grace of God
Aww come on, you laughed and you know it.
f-word in prime time?
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Aww come on, you laughed and you know it.
the first amendment doesn't give anyone the right to use profanity . there is no amendment that gives you total freedom of speech also there is no amendment that gives you total freedom of religion either . free speech and religion is the very same amendment and you can't leave one out without the other . the first amendment isn't total freedom of the press either!( freedom requires responsibility) people has twisted these amendments to make them say what they want to say. the first amendments is the freedom to preach and worship without the government step in to stop you . Because of the Bill of Rights you can go to the church and faith of your choice. all religions and belief has equal rights.
the first amendment probably has been more abused than any other amendment or law.
I don't see what we have gain from profanity. here is the best definition of profanity I've seen:
"Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully."
the Book Of James has alot to say about the tougue in chapter 3.
3:6 "And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity; so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell."
3:8 "But the tongue can no man tame; It is an unruly evil,full of deadly poison."
"Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully."
the Book Of James has alot to say about the tougue in chapter 3.
3:6 "And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity; so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell."
3:8 "But the tongue can no man tame; It is an unruly evil,full of deadly poison."
GrandAdmiral
Deity
Well you could also use profanity like any other words. Like refering to your backside, intercourse, somone with a bad attitude that reminds you of an angry dog etc. I'm sure there are other words you could use instead. But when used in that way they have the same meaning. Profanity is just some silly idea we came up with long ago and if we didn't stick to those ideas it wouldn't be so appealing to some.
profanity isn't just words or sounds .
your mouth will give away what is in your heart.
Matthew 12:33-34 " .... for a tree is known by it's fruit. O generation of vipers, how can ye , being evil, speak good things ? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh . "
In 1938, in the film Gone with the Wind, Clark Gable uttered the famous line: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn." This caused a great uproar, particularly in the Bible Belt section of the U.S. The end of Western civilization was predicted because the word "damn" was uttered in the movie!
Somehow Western civilization survived Gable saying "damn." I think it will also survive the "f word" being said on prime time television.
Somehow Western civilization survived Gable saying "damn." I think it will also survive the "f word" being said on prime time television.
Laughing Gull
charts, graphs, databases
If I stub my toe hard on a rock or something, I'm going to shout "M*th**f***er!!!!!" for all to hear, and it will not be a calculated action. It will be because I hurt myself, and that was what flew out my mouth. It does not mean I have a feeble mind, it means it hurt. It is no different or no less feeble than saying OUCH or grunting in pain.
what, would someone without a feeble mind say "Gee. because of the trajectory of my foot intersecting with a large stationary rock I am experiencing pain and discomfort." without even flinching?
cuss words are bad if used in a derogatory way against another person. I think the scriptures you quoted are referring to this idea.
GrandAdmiral
Deity
No lets not pretend any longer that i decided to accept your source as relevent to this conversation. Now there is no connection between profanity and evil(in reality). Profanity is just words. Your mouth gives away whats in your head not your heart. The moral objections of somone from long ago regarding the way anyone speaks today is irrelevant. These same sources can excuse burning witches at the stake. Again not relevant today. Times change, meanings change and so do morals not to mention the fact that there are multiple belief systems. With all due respect to your spiritual beliefs, your argument is weak an has addressed nothing of substance.
may i ask what is your source ? I learned and know these verses are true. I also learned the old saying "sticks and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt me" is a big lie too. I learned the people words tells me alot about people and their attitudes.
Double Barrel
Deity
Remember, though, being "offended" is a choice you make. It is of your own freewill to decide to be offended or hurt by words.
GrandAdmiral
Deity
My source for what? I have cited nothing. I need no source for such a statement. Thats like asking me to prove that "car" is indeed a word and not a reincarnation of the devil. A profanity is a word just like all other words. They serve their purpose. To be vulgar, expressive, funny or spontaneous. You want a source, try the dictionary.
You've hashed out versus and your interpretations of profanity without any real life perspective any of which could just be countered with a different example that doesn't live up to your beliefs.
That is stained by your owned biased interpretation and only reflects whatever stereotypes you have embraced. Profanity has its uses just like any other words. Evil and vocabulary are 2 different things. Now if you want to keep your children from cursing then preach on. Good for you but we are not children. At least most of us aren't.
Mescalhead
Vincebus Eruptum
Of course.
That reminds me of the episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm when Larry dictates an obituary for his wife's aunt. The writer took it down wrong and the glaring typo read: "our beloved -unt." Notice that the "-" does not represent "A". Nor does it represent "B". Nor does it represent "D" or any subsequent letters in the english alphabet.
I'm amazing how some people will try to defend corrupt communication. James use logic and nature to prove his point about the tongue . of course there are other evils from the tongue than just profanity ; gossip is another example.
you don't have to be a christian to believe some of the things taught in the Bible is true . Mark Twain wasn't no christian but believes in some of the truth the Bible teaches( as well as many others in the past).
James' logic :
3:3 " behold we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us ,and we turn about their whole body ."
3:4 " Behold also the ships, which though they be so great , and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm ,whithersoever the governor listeth ."
3:5 " Even so the tougue is a little member ,and boasteth great things. Behold , how great a matter a little fire kindleth!"
which in 6 i gave above says tougue is a fire. " ( a little match can burn down the whole forest and thousands of homes)
I haven't total arrive yet but my heart desires is to master James 3 for my life . in verse 2 " For in man things we offend all. if any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect ( mature ) man ,and able also to bridle the whole body."
here another good verse : proverbs 16:24
" Pleasant words are as an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones. "
the Bible isn't for lazy people that for sure . this book continues to challege me to be wiser and a better person( christian) . Of course without God in my life I probably wouldn't care to be more like Him.
you don't have to be a christian to believe some of the things taught in the Bible is true . Mark Twain wasn't no christian but believes in some of the truth the Bible teaches( as well as many others in the past).
James' logic :
3:3 " behold we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us ,and we turn about their whole body ."
3:4 " Behold also the ships, which though they be so great , and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm ,whithersoever the governor listeth ."
3:5 " Even so the tougue is a little member ,and boasteth great things. Behold , how great a matter a little fire kindleth!"
which in 6 i gave above says tougue is a fire. " ( a little match can burn down the whole forest and thousands of homes)
I haven't total arrive yet but my heart desires is to master James 3 for my life . in verse 2 " For in man things we offend all. if any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect ( mature ) man ,and able also to bridle the whole body."
here another good verse : proverbs 16:24
" Pleasant words are as an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones. "
the Bible isn't for lazy people that for sure . this book continues to challege me to be wiser and a better person( christian) . Of course without God in my life I probably wouldn't care to be more like Him.
_Philospher_
Balancing the cranium
Whether you like it or not, the F-word will be apart of the english language and will be used no matter what. By saying the F-word it gives people a "I said something wrong, but I kinda feel good about it" sense. Death, war, famine, ect are all negative parts of life, but as much as humanity tries to get rid of these "evils" it will forever continue whether we like it or not. In short, get over it or just cover your ears. 
Mescalhead
Vincebus Eruptum
Oh yes. Those Anglo-Saxons and their language. I'm soo glad the righteous Normans conquered them and became the ruling class and instilled their French dialect as the proper language of gentry, which in turn caused certain Anglo words to be considered profane. I'm sure god had a hand in the bloody conflict, with his ultimate goal to make certain words for defecation appropriate while others are not.
For such a powerful being, he is certainly a little too hung up on semantics.
Gladinia
Well, who else
This thread is moronic, and so was its start.
Mescalhead
Vincebus Eruptum
So?
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Are there people that think that using the f-word will increase crime rates or whatsoever?
I don't think it's bad on itself, but the problem is that people then think it's plainly allowed to say it. If a director wants to use it because someone is really really pissed I think it's ok, but if he wants to use it because he uses it himself on a minutely basis I think it's bad, at any time! People always adopt everything they see and like on tv.
I mean, if you can say the f-word at any time, what's left to say when you're really really pissed?
I mean, if you can say the f-word at any time, what's left to say when you're really really pissed?
